Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:01 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

Well I'm please BT were interested, but they can't have been that interested if SKY won the rights with a significantly reduced offer

BT put all there money into champions League and over paid. Now they pretend to compete with sky.

When Scottish football rights were up for tender they were way lower then sky and this offer for Super League must have been a waste of complete time.

Thought DAZN may have made an offer as they need content to build UK subscriptions.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:42 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

That's rich coming from a fan of a club that routinely shouted down all opposition and flouted every convention, excuse me if I fail to weep for you. Carter and Hudgell and every SL CEO is doing their job by protecting their own club's interests if you think any of the Championship Chairman would act differently if in their shoes then you've clearly learned nothing.

I also love the way you assume the 'likes of' from the smaller clubs are the villains also amuses me, yep no self-interest at Wigan or Leeds is there

No Leeds were dead against it and voted that way. Wigan were all for it though their chairman didn't go to the press calling out Chalmers as Hudgell, Pearson and carter did. In fact Carter was very vocal about the vote at the time stating on twitter that if Featherstone didn't vote for it Wakefield would find somewhere else to train. A nameless current SL club told Rochdale they would drop them from their coaching partnership if they didn't vote for it.

Just because the management of the Bulls were typical SL self interested administrators in the past doesn't mean it was right or that us fans can't change our minds. it was wrong then as it is now and the game is going downhill because of it.

Walk a mile in another man's shoes.

Do the SL chairmen think that attendances at their clubs are suddenly going to go up if the championship goes to the wall - or it's own separate way? Those clubs without rich backers (that are effectively trading insolvent) will continue to wither away and die on the vine.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:32 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

No Leeds were dead against it and voted that way. Wigan were all for it though their chairman didn't go to the press calling out Chalmers as Hudgell, Pearson and carter did. In fact Carter was very vocal about the vote at the time stating on twitter that if Featherstone didn't vote for it Wakefield would find somewhere else to train. A nameless current SL club told Rochdale they would drop them from their coaching partnership if they didn't vote for it.

Just because the management of the Bulls were typical SL self interested administrators in the past doesn't mean it was right or that us fans can't change our minds. it was wrong then as it is now and the game is going downhill because of it.

Walk a mile in another man's shoes.

Do the SL chairmen think that attendances at their clubs are suddenly going to go up if the championship goes to the wall - or it's own separate way? Those clubs without rich backers (that are effectively trading insolvent) will continue to wither away and die on the vine.

And if Bradford were in SL, just how do you think they would have voted.
You're analogy of walking a mile in another mans shoes is very, very apt and just as it is with the Bulls application in the golden ticket raffle, they wouldn't give a flying one about any other club when they have their noses back in the SL trough and you know it.

[Bullseye]

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:03 pm  

This is like arguing over who gets the deckchairs on the Titanic.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:13 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And if Bradford were in SL, just how do you think they would have voted.
You're analogy of walking a mile in another mans shoes is very, very apt and just as it is with the Bulls application in the golden ticket raffle, they wouldn't give a flying one about any other club when they have their noses back in the SL trough and you know it.

I don't begrudge anyone trying to get into the superleague and hope that whoever it is that gets in is given the chance to stay up and avoid all this in 2022.

It still doesn't make cutting everyone but the chosen 12 adrift right though does it? The collective behaviour of the superleague clubs has been short sighted and greedy. Ultimately, it's ended up with them paying a bloke who's never done anything in football 400K/year to deliver a reduced TV deal, falling standards on the pitch and reduced attendances at superleague matches and events (before Covid-19).

Also, what the Bull management choose to do or have done in the past is not down to me or any other fan. You need to disconnect the two. If we are parachuted into SL to get thumped every week, on less money and not get relegated I won't be there to see it. I'm sure lot's of fans will still go and I'm not saying there's anything right or wrong with that just that I won't be one of them. Similarly, if the club goes out of business or ends up in some sort of reduced set up due to the SL clubs failing to get a decent TV deal I won't be watching SL for my Rugby league fix I'll be lost from the game. Again, other people will choose differently but I won't be on my own.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:58 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

I don't begrudge anyone trying to get into the superleague and hope that whoever it is that gets in is given the chance to stay up and avoid all this in 2022.

It still doesn't make cutting everyone but the chosen 12 adrift right though does it? The collective behaviour of the superleague clubs has been short sighted and greedy. Ultimately, it's ended up with them paying a bloke who's never done anything in football 400K/year to deliver a reduced TV deal, falling standards on the pitch and reduced attendances at superleague matches and events (before Covid-19).

Also, what the Bull management choose to do or have done in the past is not down to me or any other fan. You need to disconnect the two. If we are parachuted into SL to get thumped every week, on less money and not get relegated I won't be there to see it. I'm sure lot's of fans will still go and I'm not saying there's anything right or wrong with that just that I won't be one of them. Similarly, if the club goes out of business or ends up in some sort of reduced set up due to the SL clubs failing to get a decent TV deal I won't be watching SL for my Rugby league fix I'll be lost from the game. Again, other people will choose differently but I won't be on my own.

FWIW, there should be some long term strategy for the whole game, something that seems to have been lacking since Richard Lewis departed.
As a sport we keep on looking for a "moonshot", including a drive to get Bradford back in SL all too soon.
There is no plan, not for SL, not for The Championship and most importantly for the grass roots game.
"We" would rather chare the dream in N .America than spend more time and effort enticing kids into the game.

IF SL have cut the lower leagues adrifit, in terms of passing some of the Sky monies down the line, then, there should at least be the chance of them (Championship and League 1) trying to do some kind of independent deal.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:24 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

This is like arguing over who gets the deckchairs on the Titanic.

Or life boats.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:25 pm  

kobashi wrote:

BT put all there money into champions League and over paid. Now they pretend to compete with sky.

When Scottish football rights were up for tender they were way lower then sky and this offer for Super League must have been a waste of complete time.

Thought DAZN may have made an offer as they need content to build UK subscriptions.

Waste of time? They have the best fixtures.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:34 pm  

atomic wrote:

Waste of time? They have the best fixtures.

No I mean BT had chance to take Scottish football exclusively from sky and after all the talk and hype they came in with lowball offer.

Re: New SKY sports deal : Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:40 pm  

kobashi wrote:

No I mean BT had chance to take Scottish football exclusively from sky and after all the talk and hype they came in with lowball offer.

The bonus for BT sport is they can use FTA as bargaining tool. Shame we have so many tools who can’t see that in RL. Now let’s see what happens with zero funding to Champ/L1..