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Re: Plans for TWP's replacement Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:11 pm  
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This year could run with 11 in SL. Magic isn't a problem, just send the 1st placed team directly to Old Trafford G.F *as finishing top over the course of a season proves the best team, whereas winning a G.F in 1 game makes a team the best team out of 2 on one given day*, remaining clubs to fight it out for the 2nd Finalist spot !

Give notice now to all Clubs to submit detailed applications for a new "Franchise" Super League of 16 in 2022 *this includes all current SL Member Clubs* !

Selection will be based on strict criteria but actually upheld this time around.
1. Business plan
2. Finances *proven*.
3. Stadia *including tenure contract agreements*
4. Attendances
5. A 5 point bonus to clubs outside the Lancs/Yorkshire/GM area.
6. All clubs to run a full academy/reserves, checked every year for duration of licence. No academy, no entry.
7. All licences to run for 3 years & reassessed during season 3rd season.
8. An opportunity for clubs under SL to replace underperforming SL Clubs


I would apportion points on a sliding scale of 10 to 1 in each category with an independent specialist appointed to oversee & assist in the selection processes.

If my club are not included on merit then so be it, if your club lose their place then they have not prepared or invested.so tough.
Re: The road ahead for France Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:36 pm  

Donnyman wrote:
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Steph Curry wrote:
4 pages. You all fell for it.

When will you all get that Donnyman is employed by the mods to drive traffic to a dying website?


Jean/Silent/Steph whoever you are, I don't need "employing" I'm happy to volunteer to stimulate RL discussion amongst RL fans for nothing. Anyway.......

With at least 10 English clubs in SL and at least six English wannabee clubs outside Superleague, I think it is a good idea that going forward they get some priority. The SKY deal is theirs and Les Catalans have made themselves into a big club but I don't think they have done much for French Rugby League.......

1. They didn't make an effort to underpin a French test team once they got an SL place to do so.
2. They progressively made their first team more anglo-aussie than French
3. They started an academy but quickly abandoned that
4. They pretty much blew things with the Folau farce

I sympathise in terms of their difficulty to deliver what Richard Lewis wanted of them. It's tough enough to develop a club let alone develop a whole national game.

But now we have Toulouse those two clubs can get together and sort out a rivalry, via derby games, sort out a French TV deal of some magnitude, and concentrate on having a significant number of French players in both sides. They should between them develop a player pathway for French talent.

The best place for that would be the Championship, Providing a decent level of Rugby at which the best say 30+ French lads would handle well. In short this "One French club" being made to field Anglo/Aussies to compete in SL thus destroying their ability to develop French lads, could operate with a second French club at a lower level to actually deliver French growth?.

The irony is Jean/Steph/Siilent that if it is a dying website you sir and your ilk are killing it :CRAZY:

Genuine replies only please? :D
Re: Plans for TWP's replacement Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:51 pm  

Donnyman wrote:
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Ste100Centurions wrote:
R. Elstone appears to be smoothing the way towards T.W being a SL Club for 2021 though ?


Ooooh I see your point mate, but I don't agree one teensy little bit.

I think Elstone prefers the story where TWP sadly ran out of money so they can have another go from the Championship next year....

As opposed the the game let in a bunch of Phonies even Superleague pathetically fell for in the end............

Nobody wants to admit they were taken for a ride but the RFL certainly were, then the SL fell for it.

Once Melbourne storm's owner decided to widen the ownership of the Storm, Argylle was straight out of the door to seek to take the opportunity he had always dreamed of and sought.

Bottom line is multi-$Billionaires do not run out of money :)
Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:49 pm  

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Ornery Optimist wrote:
Donnyman,

On one of the other threads you created about overseas clubs you mentioned the French club failed to bring youngsters through.Your now favourite journalist,because he reported information about Toronto Wolfpack,now reports - '' Catalans Dragons academy products Corentin Le Cam, Mathieu Cozza, Joe Chan and Mathieu Laguerre, who were playing this season with the club’s reserve team, have all signed a new two-and-a-half year contract with the club until the end of the 2022 season.''

Give Ottawa time.They are just about to start...


Well let's be honest about this, most aspiring English clubs have plenty of "junior products" who then sign a playing deal where they can eventually step up to the lower Echelons of the 30 man first team squad. Many are given a chance and in time don't make it or drop to lower divisions. We need clubs where young players are in such an abundance that the one quality talent in 50 can come through, to be steadily followed by more quality talent, from more hundreds of wannabees.

To have such a system SL clubs put scores of good young prospects through their local junior game via the foundation, then academy and then reserve teams.

Ottawa are not "about to start" in this respect. Eric Perez stared way back in 2010 taking the reigns at Canada RL, so he's had a ten years start in Canadian rugby League, to get players developed through grass roots systems. He started 10 years ago and hasn't developed a single young Canadian

Time has shown his abject failure.....
Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:49 pm  

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I think we should wait till next year before making any predictions about overseas teams. This Covid-19 virus isn't showing any signs of going away any time soon. Hopefully in 6 months time, we will have some kind of normality, but I somehow doubt it.
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Re: The road ahead for France Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:38 am  

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Donnyman wrote:
Yeh, I know the Faux Frenchman is now "silent" :lol: However he isn't out and out abusive.

But if I did get the better of him this "Steph Curry" seemed to appear to pile on the abuse, like she/he is his minder :CRAZY: .

I do not appreciate being accused of having multiple accounts.

Don't categorize me with the other two.
Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:02 am  

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The Silent H wrote:
Perez's record is pretty good. Built one club from scratch and another next year in foreign lands all in 5 years.



Agreed: It was never going to be perfect. Our game has never been perfect. Anyone who builds a club from scratch and gets quick success is always going hit some obstacle that then have to be broken down, steadily. Planning are flexibility is key. The energy, money and time required is difficult to sustain as you cannot keep all of the people, happy all of the time. Too many sidelines screamers. You heard them, you've tried to ignore, them, you know who they are. They are the ones that never made a tackle,started or ran a club, or took the whistle to ensure players can 'play our wonderful game, but alway they know the rules better than the ref.

Sometimes quick success is a chain around one's neck as fickle people want it to continue EVERY year, thereafter. It cannot be done smoothly. There must always be a ten year plan, that is updated each year, (so ALWAYS a next ten year plan), because you will hit peaks and troughs.

TWP may or may not succeed in SL with the COVID chaos that is affecting every single company on the globe, but wow what a great job they have done thus far.
'Great defence, always wins games, y'only have to score one more point than them. If tha does, tha'll win, if that doesn't tha'll lose, learn from it, more than the win last week.'. Peter Fox, 1980.
Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:13 am  

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Budgiezilla wrote:
I think we should wait till next year before making any predictions about overseas teams. This Covid-19 virus isn't showing any signs of going away any time soon. Hopefully in 6 months time, we will have some kind of normality, but I somehow doubt it.


Given the Covid wasn't the reason at all for TWP's collapse, it was Argylle pulling out, I think we should wait until Ottawa declare a real owner who has real money to burn, and wait until we see if the 2022 SKY deal suddenly changes from what SL bosses said it will be which wasn't NA expansion before, NOT writing them off as a possible future professional SL club :D
Re: Plans for TWP's replacement Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:31 am  

The Silent H wrote:
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Genuine question for fans of Leigh and current championship clubs.

Genuine consensus on these threads is that Toronto should be dropped a division or two. If this were to occur, they would probably favorites for promotion at next years end. This would create a problem for ambitious champ clubs who would have their promotion chances greatly reduced.

What would you prefer? Toronto to stay in super league or drop to championship but therefore reducing your clubs chances of success?
Re: Plans for TWP's replacement Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:54 am  

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I’m up for getting sharlston rovers into superleague not many will go there and win, at anything lol
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