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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
The small playoff crowds were played at the obscure home stadium .


The definition of obscure here is "not known to many people" so somehow your excusing the 1,000 crowds on the basis they didn't know where the ground was.

It's far more likely they may have had to pay to get in and didn't fancy it, it also looks very much like Toulouse may not have been not telling the truth about the crowd at at that TWP game which is a tactic TWP use regularly to pretend they are glamorous and people are falling over themselves at $$200 a ticket to see them. That tactic could not work against English clubs whose fans visiting Toulouse have commented that the crowds on the day were nowhere near the published crowds. When playing TWP there's no away fans to be witness to the poor crowds.

I think I know where they went wrong! They didn't put a free entry wine festival on :lol: .
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
You probably will be deceased because you have only managed one post on this forum throughout the course of your life. I fear that you don't have the energy to stay alive for the next year or two.

Toulouse should get promoted to Super League by the end of this year, but the end of 2021 at the latest. If you fear that you won't live that long, please get in touch with me and I will try to refer you to a good doctor in France, with the object of increasing your longevity.

Shouldn't that read could get promoted by the end of the year Walter, that would make the rest of your sentence but the end of 2021 at the latest much more credible, apologies in advance for any grammatical errors.

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little wayne69 wrote:
Shouldn't that read could get promoted by the end of the year Walter, that would make the rest of your sentence but the end of 2021 at the latest much more credible, apologies in advance for any grammatical errors.


The promotion issue is interesting Wayne. Superleague wanted to block TWP's promotion as they don't want them, nor do the bulk of fans here, but the current TV contract is based on a system that requires promotion and relegation to happen through the MPG game. That system is contractual, and all clubs signed up to accept it after it was voted for 7-6 by SL clubs. If Toulouse were to win the MPG at the end of this year then contractually and legally they would enter Superleague 2021.

The SL clubs clearly want Mr. Beaumont to back Leigh this year so they will go up and we won't have another useless overseas club that has few fans, develops no SL quality players and won't get us a French TV deal. Beaumont hung back last season but will be all out to get Leigh promoted rather than TO with the blessing of SL bosses. If not a quarter of Superleague could be non English, non productive in terms of developing players, and blocking clubs SKY and their viewers would prefer to be on TV like Leigh, Bradford and Widnes. This is a horrible mess caused by the war between RFL and SL at the last TV contract. The RFL have now being squashed/ruined and 2022 Superleague will be fully in charge. They will seek to satisfy SKY with as English a league as they can, which is what SKY want, and this may even mean the end for Les Catalans if that league is only 10 clubs on a reduced contract value.

Again check on TWP's recruitment, all they've really done is sign up the same team for this year and next if they stay up, and hidden that by the marquee signing, Check out Ottawa and New York both postponing entry to the RFL. Neither doing anything to develop their clubs. Maybe check out Toulouse coming clean on their actual attendances. :wink:

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Donnyman wrote:
The promotion issue is interesting Wayne. Superleague wanted to block TWP's promotion as they don't want them,:


You keep saying this then offer no evidence what so ever.

I look forward to the direct quotes from super league executives.

Cheers
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Toronto Wolfpack - 3 years / 9k

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Steph Curry wrote:
You keep saying this then offer no evidence what so ever.

I look forward to the direct quotes from super league executives.

Cheers


I’m surprised you know what evidence means.
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Steph Curry wrote:
You keep saying this then offer no evidence what so ever.

I look forward to the direct quotes from super league executives.

Cheers

I look forward to you countering his opinion with one of your own instead of trying to disrupt any meaningful debate on here regarding Toronto or any other pie in the sky expansion club, at least Donnyman puts forward explanations why in his opinion it won't work, whereas you and Walter refuse to debate the subject and simply use it as an excuse to use it as an exercise to practice your less than subtle wind up techniques.

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Donnyman wrote:
Again check on TWP's recruitment, all they've really done is sign up the same team for this year and next if they stay up, and hidden that by the marquee signing, Check out Ottawa and New York both postponing entry to the RFL. Neither doing anything to develop their clubs. Maybe check out Toulouse coming clean on their actual attendances. :wink:


What do you propose TW actually need to add to their squad? Since they've come up (and remember, the narrative for so long has been about how hard it is for promoted clubs to recruit players), they've added three players - one a marquee signing by the very definition of the word, whilst another is a two-time Grand Final winner. What else do you suggest they need to add to a squad that looks competitive with most in Super League?

It seems that on that point, you're just looking for critique for the sake of it - which is why I said in the previous thread that, whilst there are a lot of valid questions of TW, some of the criticism is just rancorous - chippy, snippy and bitter.

Leigh, Widnes and Bradford are where they are because that is where they deserve to be. Widnes and Bradford are financial basketcases. Leigh are owned by a man who made public threats to drag the club under unless a number of players allowed him to renege on contracts that were agreed in good faith. If that's the sort of company that cetain SL chairmen want to keep, all power to them.

The whole argument that the TV would be better with Bradford, Widnes and Leigh in SL seems to be based on this idea that there is a huge amount of latent demand from people who, despite being able to subscribe to Sky Sports, currently don't because those three clubs aren't in it. To suggest that those three clubs could make any difference to Sky's subscriber base to influence a TV deal by any more than relative sofa change is laughable.
I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls


Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.


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little wayne69 wrote:
I look forward to you countering his opinion with one of your own instead of trying to disrupt any meaningful debate on here regarding Toronto or any other pie in the sky expansion club, at least Donnyman puts forward explanations why in his opinion it won't work, whereas you and Walter refuse to debate the subject and simply use it as an excuse to use it as an exercise to practice your less than subtle wind up techniques.


The fact I am questioning him is exactly what debate means lol
Years in existence and average attendance

Leigh Centurions - 100+ years / Circa 3k
Wakefield Wildcats - 100+ years / Circa 4k
Toronto Wolfpack - 3 years / 9k

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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
You probably will be deceased because you have only managed one post on this forum throughout the course of your life. I fear that you don't have the energy to stay alive for the next year or two.

Toulouse should get promoted to Super League by the end of this year, but the end of 2021 at the latest. If you fear that you won't live that long, please get in touch with me and I will try to refer you to a good doctor in France, with the object of increasing your longevity.
would that be dr jean-claude romand :lol: :lol:
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Steph Curry wrote:
The fact I am questioning him is exactly what debate means lol

The fact you are questioning him simply means you don't agree with him, either that or your just doing your normal thing on here by trying to wind people up, I or anyone else on here have yet to hear you offer any credible opposition to what he says, there are credible posters on here what offer alternative opinions to his, where is yours?, fortunately/unfortunately depending on peoples perception of you have yet to hear anything constructive from you lol :roll:
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