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Posted by Salford red all over on Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am
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ThePrinter wrote:
Those two Leeds Utd games in question got around 300k each, hardly a stretch to say 10-20% at a conservative guess (and not including fans who attended the game) would’ve watched the Leeds Rhinos match instead which would’ve made a good jump in figures.

The guys numbers are flawed from the start. To measure how many people watched England in the Cricket World Cup Final the other week would you use only Sky figures or combine them with those who watched on Channel 4? Not just Leeds either as he undersells Saints vs Wigan opener as it actually got 240k not the 180k or so he claimed. Just rubbish research from the guy. All he’s shown is the best watched match on Sky Sports Arena ONLY, however some games are on both Sky Sports Arena and Sky Sports Main Event. Then some are on both Sky Sports Arena and Sky Sports Mix. Some are just solely on Sky Sports Arena and those will get better numbers because their total isn’t spread across two channels.


Well Printer three of us have tried and failed to find your data, it's simple really if you have it post it, as you say it only takes a couple of minutes.

As for Leeds United on telly you want to try living in the shadows of Footballing Giants.
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Posted by ThePrinter on Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:19 am
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Ruune Rebellion wrote:
Well I have scoured the Barb website and the onlu data that the public can access ended September 18 for weekly viewing figures. I therefore deduce that Printer is looking at last years vieweing figures and that the esteemed loverugby publication are in fact correct.


I deduce you aren’t the brightest if you can only find figures from 10 months ago on a site that updates figures weekly.

https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/fou ... dashboard/

There you go, all you have to do is enter the date on the calendar, in this case the week ending 10th Feb and then when it comes to selecting channel, press clear all channels and then type Sky Sports Arena in and search. That’ll give you the figures for Hull/Cas and Wigan/Leeds that the article listed, but then search again this time for Sky Sports Mix.
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Posted by muttley cat on Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:20 pm
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This is a very interesting battle as per OP

but this is how RL was introduced to me and i loved it , yeah my team went down once then when Dave Topliss took the top job the yoyo tag disappeared. But being in many relegation battles I can confirm they are as important as the top of the league.

The last time Wakefield sold out was the do or die tie vs Castleford.

Relegation sells

If there was none then all teams from Wakefield down would have put the cue on the rack for 2019.

IMHO bring back 2 up 2 down
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Posted by moxi1 on Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:29 pm
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I think two up two down would be good. Top of championship gets straight up whilst play offs get the other up.
Posted by roofaldo2 on Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:08 am
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moxi1 wrote:
I think two up two down would be good. Top of championship gets straight up whilst play offs get the other up.


It was hard enough to get SL clubs to agree to 1 up 1 down. There's no way they'd agree to 2 relegations a season
Posted by wrencat1873 on Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:30 am
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roofaldo2 wrote:
It was hard enough to get SL clubs to agree to 1 up 1 down. There's no way they'd agree to 2 relegations a season


If we went with 2 up, 2 down, at least one (possibly both) would have an instant return to The Championship.
At least with one up, there is a chance of that side remaining in the top flight.

Relegation was scrapped to try and create some stability in the game and although Bradford and Wakefield did almost everything they could to maintain the instability that there had been previously, in general terms, the franchising/licensing period did help.
However, there just wasn't a decent mechanism for swapping clubs in or out of the top flight.
Whilst relegation is difficult for any side that goes down, there is little doubt that it adds to the excitement towards the end of the season and prevents the "dead rubbers" that nobody was interested in.
The cynical fans believe that certain clubs would still be prevented form going down but, what we have currently seems ok and the irony is that having scrapped the "every minute matters" nonsense with it's contrived MPG, we have more genuine excitement when the season occurs "organically".
Having said that, if London had been the easy beats that most pundits had suggested, the situation would be a whole lot different and with a little help from Saints, Dave Ward deserves a huge amount of credit and looks like he will have a very bright future as a coach in the top flight.
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wrencat1873 wrote:
If we went with 2 up, 2 down, at least one (possibly both) would have an instant return to The Championship.
At least with one up, there is a chance of that side remaining in the top flight.

Relegation was scrapped to try and create some stability in the game and although Bradford and Wakefield did almost everything they could to maintain the instability that there had been previously, in general terms, the franchising/licensing period did help.
However, there just wasn't a decent mechanism for swapping clubs in or out of the top flight.
Whilst relegation is difficult for any side that goes down, there is little doubt that it adds to the excitement towards the end of the season and prevents the "dead rubbers" that nobody was interested in.
The cynical fans believe that certain clubs would still be prevented form going down but, what we have currently seems ok and the irony is that having scrapped the "every minute matters" nonsense with it's contrived MPG, we have more genuine excitement when the season occurs "organically".
Having said that, if London had been the easy beats that most pundits had suggested, the situation would be a whole lot different and with a little help from Saints, Dave Ward deserves a huge amount of credit and looks like he will have a very bright future as a coach in the top flight.


There is no change that 2 up 2 down would get approved by SL chairmen. They're only concerned with their club well-being and an increased chance of relegation is not what they want.
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:35 pm
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Frosties. wrote:
Huddersfield (-87 - 18) - Leeds H, Salford A, Hull FC A, Castleford H, St Helens A, Catalan H.

Wakefield (-107 - 18) - St Helens A, Hull FC H, Hull KR A, Wigan H, Warrington A, London H.

Leeds (-102 - 16) - Huddersfield A, Catalan H, St Helens H, London A, Salford H, Warrington H.

Hull KR (-188 - 16) - Castleford H, Wigan A, Wakefield H, Catalan A, London H, Salford A

London (-220 - 16) - Salford H, Castleford A, Catalan A, Leeds H, Hull KR A, Wakefield A.

Who is going to drop?

BUMP.....and let's keep it on topic lads eh?

Looking at that Wakefield run in and hearing Chester say he's only got 17 fit players, then I can see them being really strong candidates. If London hit any bit of form, then it really could come down to the final day at Hell View.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

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Posted by Tigerade on Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:52 am
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Call Me God wrote:
Looking at that Wakefield run in and hearing Chester say he's only got 17 fit players, then I can see them being really strong candidates.


Wakey run a reserve team don't they and have a first team squad of 34 players ? All guff from Chester.
Posted by little wayne69 on Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:02 am
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Tigerade wrote:
Wakey run a reserve team don't they and have a first team squad of 34 players ? All guff from Chester.

I'm sure that 34 man squad includes the reserves as well, at present we have lost Johnstone, Arona, and Ashurst for the season, plus the loss of Huby, and Caton Brown, which dilutes that squad somewhat, we have players out on loan who cannot be recalled for a month, then we come on to the players that are having to play with injuries, that dilutes the squad further more, but you being the font of all knowledge regarding Wakey will have taken all this into account before deeming that Chester is all guff, all I can say tiggerpops is it's not often you get it right, but once again your wrong :roll:
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