Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:17 pm  

With regards to licensing Wakey were adwarded the same as Cas, Hull KR and Salford.

Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:34 am  

GIANTSRL wrote:

wildcats

You do know the mascot is called Daddycool not Wildcat

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Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:04 am  

wildshot wrote:

That was the script taken by fans of other clubs and the media line building up to the decision but was rumour and suggestion rather than fact. After the franchises were announced someone at the RFL (I forget whom) said in an interview that Wakefield's bid was not the weakest. The media and fans of other clubs tend to ignore this and like to peddle the line that Wakefield only survived due to Crusader's demise (which conveniently suits their agenda).

HTH.

In that case, I apologise if I'm mistaken. As I say, I have no agenda. I've deleted the other off-topic angst posts so we can all start afresh as best mates.....

Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:02 am  

Fishermanscap wrote:

You do know the mascot is called Daddycool not Wildcat

And does not look particularly wild either.

For what it's worth, I think Huddersfield are in the biggest mess. Two very big games coming up and a very young squad, although the Rovers and Broncos game will be a compelling watch.

For those who like maths, if Rovers and London lose their next games (Catalan away and Leeds at home respectively), Wakey are safe unless they get cricket scores against them, as the loser of the game the week after (Hull KR v London) will be still on 18 points, with one game to go and with a points difference that is even more horrendous than it is now, following two losses.

Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:27 am  

Pumpetypump wrote:

In that case, I apologise if I'm mistaken.

Easy mistake to make - iirc, Sky had camera crews at BV on the day of franchise announcements, in the full expectation that we'd miss out; when Crusaders went pop, it was almost immediately reported in the way you've described, so quickly became received wisdom. The RFL corrected it some time later, but as is the way of these things, the truth was less palatable than the opinion, so the story stuck.

Back on topic - I can't help thinking that London will pull the required win out of the bag somewhere; I predict that Shudds will go down.

Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:32 am  

It certainly was due to the Crusaders. I was in the coach house (Cats Bar or whatever it is called now) after the match when the news came through.

Glover and his pals were pished up jumping around shouting "We are Superleague"

They also inflated the crowd figures (7k for Catalans home match for example) to help the franchise bid. All came crashing down when the tax man turned up wanting his cut of these high crowd numbers.

Daddy Cool doesn't seem as "Cool" as he used to be either, I think he may have bad knees these days or summat.

Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:53 am  

charlie wrote:

It certainly was due to the Crusaders. I was in the coach house (Cats Bar or whatever it is called now) after the match when the news came through.

Glover and his pals were pished up jumping around shouting "We are Superleague"

They also inflated the crowd figures (7k for Catalans home match for example) to help the franchise bid. All came crashing down when the tax man turned up wanting his cut of these high crowd numbers.

Daddy Cool doesn't seem as "Cool" as he used to be either, I think he may have bad knees these days or summat.

No it wasn't, as previous poster have already stated RFL come out publicly and said Wakefields was not the weakest bid of the current SL teams at the time.

Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:44 am  

charlie wrote:

It certainly was due to the Crusaders. I was in the coach house (Cats Bar or whatever it is called now) after the match when the news came through.

Glover and his pals were pished up jumping around shouting "We are Superleague"

They also inflated the crowd figures (7k for Catalans home match for example) to help the franchise bid. All came crashing down when the tax man turned up wanting his cut of these high crowd numbers.

Daddy Cool doesn't seem as "Cool" as he used to be either, I think he may have bad knees these days or summat.

You are not making a good argument Charlie. Lots of flaws in what you say including the fact the franchises were announced on a week day not a match day so how can you say "after the match when the news came through"? A few of us on here have corrected the perceived wisdom to the facts. The RFL in an interview said that Wakefield was not the weakest bid. It may well be Crusaders was the weakest and Wakefield was second weakest, those of us outside the RFL will probably never know. However the fact Crusaders pulled out is fact and convenient as it avoided the RFL having to make a judgement and state who they viewed was the weakest franchise. No evidence exists that the RFL (as opposed to the media) saw Wakefield's as the weakest franchise.

Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:06 pm  

charlie wrote:

It certainly was due to the Crusaders. I was in the coach house (Cats Bar or whatever it is called now) after the match when the news came through.

Glover and his pals were pished up jumping around shouting "We are Superleague"

That didn't happen. The licensing was announced on a Tuesday morning if I remember right, not after a game. I had a walk down to Belle Vue that day to see if there was anything happening, and there were a few journos conducting interviews with similar rubberneckers like myself.

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Re: The most interesting relegation battle in history : Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:52 pm  

I know Wikipedia is proof of nothing, but Trin fans may wish to amend the wiki page concerning the SL licencing round we are talking about. Not only does it say they only got a licence due to the demise of the Crusaders, but that they've been into administration: "Crusaders announced that they had withdrawn their application for a licence, believing that they were not financially able to sustain themselves in Super League in the near future. The club had gone into administration after the 2010 season, This decision provided a reprieve for Wakefield Trinity, who had been expected to be denied a licence after also going into administration in the 2010–11 close season. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%8 ... e_licences

I know Wikipedia is proof of nothing, but Trin fans may wish to amend the wiki page concerning the SL licencing round we are talking about. Not only does it say they only got a licence due to the demise of the Crusaders, but that they've been into administration: "Crusaders announced that they had withdrawn their application for a licence, believing that they were not financially able to sustain themselves in Super League in the near future. The club had gone into administration after the 2010 season, This decision provided a reprieve for Wakefield Trinity, who had been expected to be denied a licence after also going into administration in the 2010–11 close season. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%8 ... e_licences