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Posted by My Mate Ronnie on Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:14 am
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Posted by My Mate Ronnie on Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:16 am
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The RFU run an illicit drugs programme independent of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), and carried out 332 tests during the 2017-2018 season, 94% of which were hair samples and have a 3-5 month detection period.
Posted by Someday on Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:29 pm
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My Mate Ronnie wrote:
The RFU run an illicit drugs programme independent of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), and carried out 332 tests during the 2017-2018 season, 94% of which were hair samples and have a 3-5 month detection period.

If it helps to stop players taking drugs yes
Posted by Lazy J on Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:17 pm
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Someday wrote:
My Mate Ronnie wrote:
The RFU run an illicit drugs programme independent of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), and carried out 332 tests during the 2017-2018 season, 94% of which were hair samples and have a 3-5 month detection period.

If it helps to stop players taking drugs yes


why have a testing policy that goes beyond WADA, but with a result less than WADA?

"Under the programme, players are guaranteed anonymity for a first offence, but are fined and required to undergo a rehabilitation programme, which the authorities insist is enough of a deterrent."

when they catch them, there's no ban, just a quiet word and its brushed under the carpet.

another fine spin from the RFU
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Posted by Him on Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:10 pm
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Lazy J wrote:
why have a testing policy that goes beyond WADA, but with a result less than WADA?

"Under the programme, players are guaranteed anonymity for a first offence, but are fined and required to undergo a rehabilitation programme, which the authorities insist is enough of a deterrent."

when they catch them, there's no ban, just a quiet word and its brushed under the carpet.

another fine spin from the RFU

Yep. It’s a clever way of avoiding big bans and negative headlines. If this was football, RL or some other sports the media would be criticising the sport for not being under WADA and for not dealing with the issue severely enough.

In that article itself the RFU attempts to minimise the problem by suggesting it’s only “sidelined” players and that it just reflects “increased use in society” when in fact the figures suggest fewer people are taking drugs than 20 years ago.
Posted by bren2k on Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:26 am
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Perhaps it's just a sign of a more mature and pragmatic approach by the RFU - test more frequently, find those young men who are using recreational drugs, and respond with a combination of punishment and support for a first offence. I think it makes sense - certainly more sense rather than a puritanical, knee-jerk attitude that some people, despite all the evidence to the contrary, think will stop people using drugs for recreational purposes.
Posted by MGarbutt1986 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:38 am
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bren2k wrote:
Perhaps it's just a sign of a more mature and pragmatic approach by the RFU - test more frequently, find those young men who are using recreational drugs, and respond with a combination of punishment and support for a first offence. I think it makes sense - certainly more sense rather than a puritanical, knee-jerk attitude that some people, despite all the evidence to the contrary, think will stop people using drugs for recreational purposes.

DRUGS are ILLEGAL, they should go to prison, "RECREATIONAL" drugs fuel other criminality, terrorism etc.
Posted by puroresu_boy on Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:48 am
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MGarbutt1986 wrote:
DRUGS are ILLEGAL, they should go to prison, "RECREATIONAL" drugs fuel other criminality, terrorism etc.


Prison lol

Criminalising drug use has never worked and will never work in seeing a reduction of recreational drugs.
Posted by MGarbutt1986 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:55 am
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puroresu_boy wrote:
Prison lol

Criminalising drug use has never worked and will never work in seeing a reduction of recreational drugs.

THEY ARE ILLEGAL, simple, should we decriminalise drink driving?

THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS RECREATIONAL DRUGS.
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Posted by bren2k on Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:56 am
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I wrote:
certainly more sense rather than a puritanical, knee-jerk attitude that some people, despite all the evidence to the contrary, think will stop people using drugs for recreational purposes.


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DRUGS are ILLEGAL, they should go to prison, "RECREATIONAL" drugs fuel other criminality, terrorism etc.
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