Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:03 pm  

steadygetyerboots-on wrote:

On the flip side Fans of so called bigger clubs don’t like a newcomer at the table forcing them to look at someone who doesn’t play in their 4 team league & they don’t want to play with the new kid so stick together Hoping that the newcomer will go away soon enough leaving them to discuss themselves to death.

Give over, do you really think a Leeds fan cares if a Wigan or Saints player plays or visa versa and we want their players involved over players from certain other teams. Don’t see anybody not wanting McGillivary out even though he’s not from one of the ‘big boys’.

I think SOME fans of ‘smaller’ clubs put way too much and much more into what club international players play for than fans of the ‘bigger’ clubs.

Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:37 pm  

To be fair most Trinity supporters are as fair minded as any other specci's, there's only Vastman and his alter ego WakeyTrin1873 that tend to troll.

Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:54 am  

Surely this is a non debate? Makinson has proven himself at International standard and has shown himself to be outstanding, even at that level. It's irrelevant who was top try scorer at a level below this in much the same way as proclaiming a championship player "best winger" because they scored more tries than anyone in Superleague.

Greg Eden was top try scoring winger the season before. Is anyone really comparing that to, say, Ryan Hall's record at international level and saying he should be above him in the international pecking order because of it?

Johnstone is a good player who could go on to be whatever he wants. However, if he isn't top try scoring winger next year will those same fans who are bigging him up be equally vociferous in voicing their objection should he make the international team and declaring whoever is top scorer as the rightful choice? I seriously doubt it.

Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:52 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Surely this is a non debate? Makinson has proven himself at International standard and has shown himself to be outstanding, even at that level. It's irrelevant who was top try scorer at a level below this in much the same way as proclaiming a championship player "best winger" because they scored more tries than anyone in Superleague.

Greg Eden was top try scoring winger the season before. Is anyone really comparing that to, say, Ryan Hall's record at international level and saying he should be above him in the international pecking order because of it?

Johnstone is a good player who could go on to be whatever he wants. However, if he isn't top try scoring winger next year will those same fans who are bigging him up be equally vociferous in voicing their objection should he make the international team and declaring whoever is top scorer as the rightful choice? I seriously doubt it.

Its a non debate for Vastman and his Parochial Viewpoint he has been in denial the previous 7 days and now gone AWOL.

At the end of the day its a british player who has won the award, and in the achievement has put one up on the aussies who don't give much appreciation of what we want to achieve in having a proper international calendar that is stronger than there darling origin series.

Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:26 pm  

JINJER wrote:

To be fair most Trinity supporters are as fair minded as any other specci's, there's only Vastman and his alter ego WakeyTrin1873 that tend to troll.

That Fishermanscap isn't a very pleasant dude either, he needs to chill out a lot

Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:06 am  

Tommy Duckfingers wrote:

Can we just clear up that a small handfull of posters by no means speak for "Wakefield Fans" and the majority of us have no desire to be lumped together.

TJ is a very, very good winger but behind Makinson and even MacGillivary by some way at the moment in my opinion. He'll get his chance soon enough though if he keeps up the good work.

This is also my position - although I don't necessarily agree with the second comparison. Johnstone is a real talent, and will have a good international career - but Makinson is currently a better, more rounded player - particularly in defence.

Printer makes a habit of reading a post by one person and attributing that view to every supporter of the club in question; it's not only immature, but faulty logic, in that there isn't a single set of fans in SL who operate as a hive mind - if that were the case, we could assume that all Leeds fans are supercilious, patronising and like the sound of their own voices - but we don't, because we understand that Printer is not representative of all Leeds supporters.

Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:07 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

Give over, do you really think a Leeds fan cares if a Wigan or Saints player plays or visa versa and we want their players involved over players from certain other teams. Don’t see anybody not wanting McGillivary out even though he’s not from one of the ‘big boys’.

I think SOME fans of ‘smaller’ clubs put way too much and much more into what club international players play for than fans of the ‘bigger’ clubs.

Re: "The Tommy Makinson/Tom Johnstone Love in - fill your bo : Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:49 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Printer makes a habit of reading a post by one person and attributing that view to every supporter of the club in question; it's not only immature, but faulty logic,.

I repeatedly have put SOME fans. You do realise what some means don’t you? May have been some posts where I haven’t but shouldn’t need to put it every single time.

Also must’ve missed all the times people have used the term “typical Whino fan”