Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 6:36 am  

Trainman wrote:

I’d say it was the players loosing self control rather than the ref loosing control. Yes, the ref made mistakes but he’s human and will do. The ref didn’t whack anyone round the head, throw punches or tip people upside down. It’s the players responsibility to maintain self control and on this occasion a fair few were unable to.

Yes I agree. The ref handled it all poorly, but the players have to be better than that.

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 7:01 am  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Yes I agree. The ref handled it all poorly, but the players have to be better than that.

The problem is the ref wasn't dealing properly with fev's tactics so what are the Hull players supposed to do?

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 7:21 am  

Fight fire with fire and have players punching the opposition and players get sent off obviously...

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 7:57 am  

vastman wrote:

Didums, poor innocent little Hull - man up.

Excellent contribution as always....

So you'd be perfectly happy if Wakefield had been involved in that game would you? Not at all annoyed about swinging arms, bad hits, punches, knees and whatever else went on?

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 8:36 am  

Trainman wrote:

I’d say it was the players loosing self control rather than the ref loosing control. Yes, the ref made mistakes but he’s human and will do. The ref didn’t whack anyone round the head, throw punches or tip people upside down. It’s the players responsibility to maintain self control and on this occasion a fair few were unable to.

This.

The referee was no means excellent, but other then that - what really could he of done differently with the cards situation.

Briscoe - professional foul - 10 mins correct
Shaul - professional foul - 10 mins correct
Davies - Head high - 10 mins correct
Faraimo - head shot swinning arm - red card - correct

The pushing one's wouldn;t have been yellows earlier in the game but he needed it to simmer down - so probably correct.

The sooner we start putting pressure on the players as well and not just blaming the ref the quicker we would get results and action. Jake connor is as much to blame for increasing tensions with his constant mouth on overdrive, feigning injury to get penalties and then laughing about it, slow clapping the ref, trying to get under hocks skin in an already tension filled game.

The guy needs to grow up quickly.

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 8:40 am  

Trainman wrote:

I’d say it was the players loosing self control rather than the ref loosing control. Yes, the ref made mistakes but he’s human and will do. The ref didn’t whack anyone round the head, throw punches or tip people upside down. It’s the players responsibility to maintain self control and on this occasion a fair few were unable to.

Absolutely right - it never ceases to amaze me how some fans will happily subscribe to the theory that players are unable to control themselves but for an assertive referee keeping their aggression in check; it's nonsense - the onus is, without a doubt, on the players. In this case - despite Fev's slowing tactics, Hull were totally on top - why let themselves be dragged down?

That was a bloody horrible game - if you're a neutral checking out RL for the first time, or a potential sponsor, you've just had all your RL stereotypes confirmed.

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 8:53 am  

bren2k wrote:

That was a bloody horrible game - if you're a neutral checking out RL for the first time, or a potential sponsor, you've just had all your RL stereotypes confirmed.

And then you're probably thinking about tuning in next time for more of the same.

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 9:05 am  

mean_machine wrote:

This.

The referee was no means excellent, but other then that - what really could he of done differently with the cards situation.

Briscoe - professional foul - 10 mins correct
Shaul - professional foul - 10 mins correct
Davies - Head high - 10 mins correct
Faraimo - head shot swinning arm - red card - correct

The pushing one's wouldn;t have been yellows earlier in the game but he needed it to simmer down - so probably correct.

The sooner we start putting pressure on the players as well and not just blaming the ref the quicker we would get results and action. Jake connor is as much to blame for increasing tensions with his constant mouth on overdrive, feigning injury to get penalties and then laughing about it, slow clapping the ref, trying to get under hocks skin in an already tension filled game.

The guy needs to grow up quickly.

I agree people saying ref was poor and lost control, i thought he did a good job considering both teams seems more happy to try to knock lumps out of each other, whats the ref supposed to do he gave them plenty of chances to straighten themselves out, then lost patience and got the cards out.

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 9:30 am  

Cas Till I Die wrote: I’m awaiting all the fans from fev up in arms at the brutal nature of the game like they did after we played them in the cup and Rangi Chase put an illegal shot on Ropati. I doubt it though, the great unwashed don’t have long memories. Well done Hull. In over 50 years of watching and playing the game, Chase's tackle was the worst. most cowardly, unprovoked attack I've ever seen on a rugby field. Had he done what he did on the street he'd have gone inside. Instead, having broken a fellow professional's jaw he got 3 matches. I wasn't there last night, because I've broken my ankle, I'll reserve judgement until I see it on Rovers' TV. But for the record, I reckon Hull thought we'd roll over like we did against Wire end of last season. They got a nasty shock. Just for the record in case you've forgotten https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZHmfa4FbE

Cas Till I Die wrote: I’m awaiting all the fans from fev up in arms at the brutal nature of the game like they did after we played them in the cup and Rangi Chase put an illegal shot on Ropati. I doubt it though, the great unwashed don’t have long memories. Well done Hull. In over 50 years of watching and playing the game, Chase's tackle was the worst. most cowardly, unprovoked attack I've ever seen on a rugby field. Had he done what he did on the street he'd have gone inside. Instead, having broken a fellow professional's jaw he got 3 matches. I wasn't there last night, because I've broken my ankle, I'll reserve judgement until I see it on Rovers' TV. But for the record, I reckon Hull thought we'd roll over like we did against Wire end of last season. They got a nasty shock. Just for the record in case you've forgotten https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZHmfa4FbE

Re: Fev-Hull : Fri May 11, 2018 9:55 am  

majorhound wrote:

In over 50 years of watching and playing the game, Chase's tackle was the worst. most cowardly, unprovoked attack I've ever seen on a rugby field. Had he done what he did on the street he'd have gone inside. Instead, having broken a fellow professional's jaw he got 3 matches.

More cowardly than Barry Johnson having his jaw shattered by a headbutt, despite him not having the ball & his arms held?