Interesting article written recently, very poignant, for all RL. Paul McNally spent 15 seasons in the backroom at Salford Red Devils, heres what he as to say
yes after reading it says he has the solution to solve the games problems but isn't willing to tell us now, so if he's the great messiah is he waiting till the games totally defunct and then say how about we did it this way I'd say we know all what he's written we all ready have an idea about anyway
onlyanorthernsoul wrote:
Interesting article written recently, very poignant, for all RL. Paul McNally spent 15 seasons in the backroom at Salford Red Devils, heres what he as to say
yes after reading it says he has the solution to solve the games problems but isn't willing to tell us now, so if he's the great messiah is he waiting till the games totally defunct and then say how about we did it this way I'd say we know all what he's written we all ready have an idea about anyway
To be fair to London, if they're averaging say 1000 home fans per match then taking 10% of their fans to Salford last week was a pretty decent effort. I'm a season ticket holder at Salford City FC (yes, the plastic club before anyone points it out... ) and for long distance trips (London & further south) we've been averaging around 100-150 and that's based on an average of around 2500 home fans. For "derbies" like Fylde, Halifax & Wrexham we took around 400-450. Those coaches are heavily subsidised by the club though and even for the longest trips we only have to fork out £15 (Dover is near on 600 mile round trip).
For Salford Rugby, we took in the region of 1500 to Huddersfield for the first game on a Friday night. Bearing in mind we have a core support of maybe 3000 that either means we have a lot of hard-core fans or we have a lot of people that will turn up for a few beers and a trip out 4 or 5 times a season when it's a local derby! I'd imagine for Wigan and Wire away we'll take 1000 or so which based on % of fans that's pretty decent effort. Will Wigan and Leeds be bringing a third of their average home gate (4k or so) to the AJ Bell?
so do I but you seem to gloat on situations like this
I am not gloating. I am just stating a fact.
It is very sad. The club has a relatively new stadium. It is near a major city. If it was in healthy condition it should be drawing at least 7-8,000 per game and thereby at least breaking even.
Catalans Dragon by contrast, in a much smaller urban environment, regularly draws 8-9,000 fans to home games. Catalans in its pre-professional existence, before Super League, drew 1,000-1,500 per game. Toulouse now draws 1,500 French fans, plus visiting fans, and could be expected to emulate Catalans Super League attendances if it was promoted to Super League. Salford is also dwarfed in its fan base by the highly successful nearby clubs at Wigan, St. Helens and Warrington.
What this suggests is that Salford, despite over a century in existence, has lost its loyal fan base of years gone by and is destined to collapse for lack of financial viability.
JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
It is very sad. The club has a relatively new stadium. It is near a major city. If it was in healthy condition it should be drawing at least 7-8,000 per game and thereby at least breaking even.
Catalans Dragon by contrast, in a much smaller urban environment, regularly draws 8-9,000 fans to home games. Catalans in its pre-professional existence, before Super League, drew 1,000-1,500 per game. Toulouse now draws 1,500 French fans, plus visiting fans, and could be expected to emulate Catalans Super League attendances if it was promoted to Super League. Salford is also dwarfed in its fan base by the highly successful nearby clubs at Wigan, St. Helens and Warrington.
What this suggests is that Salford, despite over a century in existence, has lost its loyal fan base of years gone by and is destined to collapse for lack of financial viability.
You assume a lot here Bazza. Firstly, Catalans draw their home fans from an extensive region and a certain number would follow toulouse if they were in SL, thus diluting the catalan crowds. Secondly, Catalans are the only game in town, given the crapness of the local union side of late.......a resurgence of the union lot would again impact on Catalans crowd. Then there is the impact of the Challenge cup victory........pretty much SFA in terms of a long term boost, the same as London and Sheffield getting to the CC Final...... Then in terms of Salford. Arguably 2 of the top 10 soccer sides in the country play on their manor.....they do struggle and you trolling does have a valid point, but given the region of France where your 2 darlings play is full of in-bred french farmers who acceded to the nazis in return for a free ride in 1940, I'd steer clear of slagging off english sides whilst alluding to them being replaced by either a french side who have been beaten twice already this year, or another side from Manchester who ply some of their home games in Canada.....
Pretty sure that was what the Huddersfield tannoy guy announced at the game but struggling to find any clarification online. Maybe a Hudds fan reading this can confirm how many there were?
It is very sad. The club has a relatively new stadium. It is near a major city. If it was in healthy condition it should be drawing at least 7-8,000 per game and thereby at least breaking even.
Catalans Dragon by contrast, in a much smaller urban environment, regularly draws 8-9,000 fans to home games. Catalans in its pre-professional existence, before Super League, drew 1,000-1,500 per game. Toulouse now draws 1,500 French fans, plus visiting fans, and could be expected to emulate Catalans Super League attendances if it was promoted to Super League. Salford is also dwarfed in its fan base by the highly successful nearby clubs at Wigan, St. Helens and Warrington.
What this suggests is that Salford, despite over a century in existence, has lost its loyal fan base of years gone by and is destined to collapse for lack of financial viability.
Pretty sure that was what the Huddersfield tannoy guy announced at the game but struggling to find any clarification online. Maybe a Hudds fan reading this can confirm how many there were?
My bad. Thought I heard them announce 1500 but was just over 1200 apparently.
SaleSlim wrote:
Pretty sure that was what the Huddersfield tannoy guy announced at the game but struggling to find any clarification online. Maybe a Hudds fan reading this can confirm how many there were?