Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:20 pm  

Had Gildart been caught before the tryline do you think he would have stopped the play the ball and gone to the screen for the Hull try decision? If not it would have been in Wigan's interest not to have scored. Ive never seen this before where two tries were potentially up for decision. A first for a televised game?

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:35 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Had Gildart been caught before the tryline do you think he would have stopped the play the ball and gone to the screen for the Hull try decision? If not it would have been in Wigan's interest not to have scored. Ive never seen this before where two tries were potentially up for decision. A first for a televised game?

You are just repeating what Eddie Hemmings said....pathetic !

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:49 pm  

Budgiezilla wrote:

You are just repeating what Eddie Hemmings said....pathetic !

Really? Honest, I went to the game tonight. Not even seen the replay yet.

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:55 pm  

OK, fair enough...sorry

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:09 am  

Budgiezilla wrote:

OK, fair enough...sorry

No worries.

I'm more bothered that my mind is on the same wavelength as Wiggy Hemmings!

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:51 am  

Should Mr Hicks have been asked to state try or no try over the Hull grounding. Given that he let Gildart run the length of the field and then said try on the field it would suggest that he would have gone no try for the Hull grounding. What would the video ref have done then?

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:07 am  

I think he did say try for Wigan, no try for Hull (although strictly speaking he didn't need to as they are mutually exclusive; by explicitly stating try for Wigan he is implicitly stating no try for Hull). Thaler then took an age because he had to overturn Hicks. Had the on field decision been try for Hull it would have been much quicker as there definitely wouldn't have been any evidence to overturn it.

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:09 am  

Levrier wrote:

Should Mr Hicks have been asked to state try or no try over the Hull grounding. Given that he let Gildart run the length of the field and then said try on the field it would suggest that he would have gone no try for the Hull grounding. What would the video ref have done then?

He did. I watched the replay last night and he said he had try Wigan and no try for Hull.

Going off recent decisions (Peyroux, Tierney etc) I've got no idea how he could say he was 100% certain that was a try after having 75 looks. Without the prejudice of the 'no try' decision I could have just about taken it being given benefit of the doubt but with that in mind, it should never have been given.

The rule needs scraping. Thankfully it didn't cost us.

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:27 am  

Thaler clearly felt he was in a bind because of the on field decision, it looked a try but going by the letter of the law I'm not sure it was possible to overturn the on field decision because it's hit and miss whether you get a camera angle that conclusively shows downward pressure. It was the right decision in the end but only because common sense prevailed. Had we got the try instead of Hull we'd have been back to howls of "corruption" and the like. Glad we didn't reach the GF on the back of a decision like that.

The on field decision definitely needs scrapping though, I've said that from the start. It's an irrational policy to make the referee guess and then to give that guess such authority that most VRs can't overturn it. Bring back BOD and let the on-field and video referees both make the decision together, on-field ref has the final say.

Re: GAME ON : Wigan Warriors v Hull FC - 20:00:00 : Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:44 am  

I don't see how that try was given to Hull, the Wigan try was given on field which must deem Hull's try a no-try on field. So the VR needed to be able to say with 100% certainty that the Hull try was a try, you wouldn't need to watch the same try over and over again if you were certain it was a try.

The good news is that the result didn't hang on this try.