Re: Widnes : Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:32 pm  

Agree entirely. No fundraising by fans will make the difference between coming out of admin or folding into liquidation, so they need to keep the cash and hope. it would come in very handy for new management. It will make no difference before then to the outcome.

I should just add that IMHO our 500k raised DID make a difference as it meant we finished the season, which would certainly not have happened. Whether knowing what we now know that was a good thing or a bad thing, is debatable but it did keep the wolf from the door at the time.

Re: Widnes : Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:57 pm  

Too much ineffective one up drives that made very little ground. After the break we changed tack for a while and shifted the ball quickly along the line to our backs which worked but then fell back into the one up drives. Very poor reffing, Pickersgill deffo looked to have grounded the ball from where I was and will someone please spend some time with Chisholm on his tackling technique, it's terrible.

Re: Widnes : Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:25 pm  

Apologies, posted above on wrong board.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:42 pm  

Saying on Twitter widnes have been saved good news

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:55 pm  

I'm not really understanding what's happened in terms of the players/staff. Were they all made redundant? And now the newco is having to offer new employment contracts to them all?
If so does that mean they didn't do a tupe? Employment law isn't my strong point haha.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:59 pm  

Nothus wrote:

I'm not really understanding what's happened in terms of the players/staff. Were they all made redundant? And now the newco is having to offer new employment contracts to them all?
If so does that mean they didn't do a tupe? Employment law isn't my strong point haha.

From social media it appears all off-field staff were made redundant and at least 4 players have been let go (who are all injured at the moment) they have been saved from liquidation, but I still fear they have a long hard road ahead. They had a small squad as it was, losing 4, and likely more, will really hurt them as the season drags on. Hope they avoid the fate we had of watching our kids get beat up to inevitably be relegated.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:12 pm  

How can they pick and choose which players to retain/keep though? Just letting go the injured guys is brutal.

Re: Widnes : Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:51 am  

Big earners though in Tangata, Inu and Albert.

Re: Widnes : Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:28 am  

Nothus wrote:

How can they pick and choose which players to retain/keep though? Just letting go the injured guys is brutal.

Because when any company makes redundancies, they do it based on a number of factors. Usually a scoring system. In reality, they usually weight that scoring system so the people they want rid of happen to come bottom of it. In some companies, they may weight things like being off sick, skills in certain areas etc. In Widnes' case, they could just put a high weighting on "injured or not" and "cost to the business". Then those who are high earners and injured will be the ones lowest in the scoring and made redundant. A crude way of putting it, but it'll be along those lines.
When companies make redundancies, they don't make absolutely everyone redundant, they cut a certain amount. That's what Widnes' administrators have effectively done.

Re: Widnes : Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:42 am  

amazing how quickly RFL managed to approve the takeover. Every time we went through we had weeks of RFL ooming and aahing over approving the bidders. In Widnes case seems to have just been a formality. Suspect in our case they were more bothered about securing a paying tenant for their lease than any rugby related reasons.