Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:41 am  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Why are people convinced the ref over ruled the touch judge? He didn’t raise his flag to signal the player was in touch. However the video clearly shows his hand is well over the line. I don’t think Minchella grounded the ball and the Magrin effort is inconclusive from the replay.

From the stand he 'Swished' the flag and pointed to the line where he ruled the player to be out and he never joined the ref in goal. He signalled it but the ref ignored.

[Bullseye]

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:52 am  

From my view on the terrace and subsequently on the highlights I’d say all the incidents are pretty inconclusive really and the ref was nearer on all occasions.

What is clear is the defensive “efforts” at time were unacceptable. The try in the second half where the Swinton player burst through Magrin and Peltier was awful. There were some equally bad misses from Garside and Minchella that led to tries. They’re all capable of much better than that as we know which makes it disappointing. The left side defence was exploited at times with Kibula running at Keyes and Swinton creating space and an extra man. Oakes and Garside looked in trouble on a few occasions and we leaked tries there whenever Swinton got themselves organised.

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:19 pm  

The Liney's stance when the try was scored was a clear indication to the ref that there was an offence. i.e he stood on the touch line 2 metres from the corner flag. It used to be the case that linesman should not wave their flags like a demented semaphore exponent.

[Bulliac]

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:51 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

The Liney's stance when the try was scored was a clear indication to the ref that there was an offence. i.e he stood on the touch line 2 metres from the corner flag. It used to be the case that linesman should not wave their flags like a demented semaphore exponent.

That's what I saw too. If the touchie has no problem with the score then he runs to the in goal corner ; he didn't, he held his ground at the corner flag; therefore he appeared to be overruled. Strange decision from the ref for what is really, without video, the touchie's call.

Maybe the officials go on the idea that a try should be given the benefit on the doubt, unless it's clearly out? Maybe the touchie said " I thought he might have been in touch but I'm not totally sure", so the ref just gave what he thought? I dunno. To be fair at normal speed it must be a right mare to make those instant decisions so I'm not going to bag the young ref ( I think I'm old enough to say that he was just a kid, without it being too insulting) who will learn, given time. Maybe he was correct, though my basic instinct would be to go with your first thought.

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:34 pm  

If he stood at the corber flag then he is saying that he is not sure, two metres from the corner flag (which is where I thought he stood) means there is an offence.

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:47 pm  

Jy has posted a picture on twitter of the guy's hand in touch as he dives to ground the ball

I think they should just let it go and move on now tbh.

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:47 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Jy has posted a picture on twitter of the guy's hand in touch as he dives to ground the ball

I think they should just let it go and move on now tbh.

I expect fans to get caught up in this but not the players. Someone needs to have a word with him

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:58 pm  

You going to get refereeing errors that go against you so it’s just part of the game we still gifted them enough scores with our defence. That last try was pathetic.

What I still don’t know is why Webster go sin binned. At the time I couldn’t work it out and having just watched it on you tube he’s tackled and gets head butted as clear as day whilst he’s laid on his back.

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:02 pm  

I wonder if Jy will be posting pictures of the non exsistent defence for half the tries Swinton scored on Sunday.Please can we just move on now and concentrate on the massive game coming up on Sunday.

Re: Swinton (H) : Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:16 pm  

Watching that last try, if any of Peltier, Margrin or Pickersgill are dropped none of them can complain. Why on earth did Pick go high. If he goes low he at least slows him down for Jy to tackle him.

Kear has some decisions to make. Does he bring in Brown for Pick? Sadly I think we'll see Grant brought in for Ethan which is a travesty as Ricketts is scoring tries for fun in the reserves.