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Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:49 pm
Posted by DILLIGAF on Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:49 pm
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Pyrah123 wrote:
Oakes is 2 year tbh a lot of clubs do it like this


Yeah they do, certainly in the Championship. Leigh announced a ton of players the other day and I think most, if not all, were on 1 year deals.
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Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:45 pm
Posted by Bulliac on Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:45 pm
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Pyrah123 wrote:
Oakes is 2 year tbh a lot of clubs do it like this

Indeed, so is Jordan Lilley, though they signed prior to the new management taking over, so don't count as 'new'.

Though, much like our new management, I was on a surreal flight of whimsy when I did that post about being cynical.
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Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:00 pm
Posted by rugbyreddog on Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:00 pm
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nestegg wrote:
We are principally interested in the latter and not the former. There has already been far too much 'taken' from the Bulls in recent years.

We also want to see folk introduced to the club who espouse two core values - honesty and integrity. Such values have we believe been bereft in respect of the Bulls ownership (and within the RFL hierarchy) for many years.

When (or if) we get the opportunity we will share our vision with all and sundry. At this time, at least in regard to our consortium's specific plans, we prefer to keep our cards fairly close to our chests.

BTW, and apologies if this is old news, but one of our RFL insiders has informed us that Ralph Rimmer appears to be on the verge of deciding to commission a formal public inquiry into recent events at the Bulls etc. The view in the RFL is that if Ralph doesn't commission an inquiry in the near future then his hand could be forced by the Tier 2 and Tier 3 clubs when they all meet up shortly - we think they are all due to meet up in Doncaster. Regardless, we aver that should an inquiry be commissioned it would largely prove to be no more than a long, drawn out smokescreen, and could simply prove to be a distraction as opposed to a solution.

A different and far more direct approach is required. Watch this space.

Interesting, Didn't you tell Hapetobehere that there was no interest in an inquiry from other clubs?
Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:30 pm
Posted by Bulls4Champs on Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:30 pm
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Why are for ok calling for a independent lately nquiry for what s happened over the past five years as opposed to all the years since we first went into administration?
Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:06 pm
Posted by Front Row Grizzly on Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:06 pm
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As a very concerned Bulls supporter I've been reading with huge interest over the last 3 months.

Bulls4champs - You appear to be asking an interesting question but can you clarify -

Are you making reference to an enquiry going back only five years?

Are you asking why it doesnt go back further?

Where have you got the idea it would only go back 5 yrs?

When you put OK are you suggesting Omar is now asking for an enquiry?

I suggest from what has been posted already that Nestegg might be the ones to ask. You might want to wait for them to respond. They do seem to have at least a little finger on the pulse.
Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:51 pm
Posted by Mr Dog on Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:51 pm
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Things change again with Kimberley Stather resigning as a director of BBBBB Ltd, but remaining as the PWSC, and Mark Kilgallon and Sandra Wood appointed directors. Still no sign of Nige......
Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:23 pm
Posted by Bulls4Champs on Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:23 pm
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Front Row Grizzly wrote:
As a very concerned Bulls supporter I've been reading with huge interest over the last 3 months.

Bulls4champs - You appear to be asking an interesting question but can you clarify -

Are you making reference to an enquiry going back only five years?

Are you asking why it doesnt go back further?

Where have you got the idea it would only go back 5 yrs?

When you put OK are you suggesting Omar is now asking for an enquiry?

I suggest from what has been posted already that Nestegg might be the ones to ask. You might want to wait for them to respond. They do seem to have at least a little finger on the pulse.


No, OK is a typing error. It meant to say folk, but it came out wrong.

What I am asking is this. Why are some folk asking for a inquiry for the past 5 years, as I have seen of social media?

I am wandering if they should be asking from further back?
Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:28 pm
Posted by nestegg on Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:28 pm
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Bulls4Champs wrote:
No, OK is a typing error. It meant to say folk, but it came out wrong.

What I am asking is this. Why are some folk asking for a inquiry for the past 5 years, as I have seen of social media?

I am wandering if they should be asking from further back?

We don't go on conventional social media platforms mate, but we can make two points re the above:

1) Any inquiry needs to go back to say mid 2011 - a few months prior to when Nigel Wood and his allegedly dodgy RFL buddy, Richard 'Posh Boy' Lewis, elected to buy the Odsal head lease off Hood 'for the good of the game'. Shortly after the head lease re-assignment the RFL said to the BBC on 24 January 2012, and we quote:

"This arrangement is absolutely the right thing to do because it safeguards the future of one of the sport's most famous stadia," and

"Odsal is famous throughout the world. It would be a tragedy were the venue to be lost to the sport in the way that other evocative rugby league venues have already been lost."


So eight years later where are we? The stadium has been (allegedly purposefully) run into the ground by the RFL. The South Bank stadium is apparently on the point of collapse. The key head lease clause requiring RL to be played at Odsal was rendered null and void in late Spring 2019, and shortly thereafter it is no coincidence that the Bulls left Odsal (and Bradford) based on largely fictitious reasons. All this whilst the Council's CE - Kersten England (from Scotland) - in recent times sat back and sipped complimentary drinks etc in the crumbling South Bank.

It is we allege a disgrace.

2) In any event as said previously any inquiry will in all likelihood be a long drawn out whitewash. A more direct approach to meaningfully address the Bulls fans many legitimate grievances re Odsal etc is required. In doing so a positive, truly independent and fair outcome should materialise. Watch this space.
Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:45 am
Posted by PHILISAN on Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:45 am
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nestegg wrote:
We don't go on conventional social media platforms mate, but we can make two points re the above:

1) Any inquiry needs to go back to say mid 2011 - a few months prior to when Nigel Wood and his allegedly dodgy RFL buddy, Richard 'Posh Boy' Lewis, elected to buy the Odsal head lease off Hood 'for the good of the game'. Shortly after the head lease re-assignment the RFL said to the BBC on 24 January 2012, and we quote:

"This arrangement is absolutely the right thing to do because it safeguards the future of one of the sport's most famous stadia," and

"Odsal is famous throughout the world. It would be a tragedy were the venue to be lost to the sport in the way that other evocative rugby league venues have already been lost."


So eight years later where are we? The stadium has been (allegedly purposefully) run into the ground by the RFL. The South Bank stadium is apparently on the point of collapse. The key head lease clause requiring RL to be played at Odsal was rendered null and void in late Spring 2019, and shortly thereafter it is no coincidence that the Bulls left Odsal (and Bradford) based on largely fictitious reasons. All this whilst the Council's CE - Kersten England (from Scotland) - in recent times sat back and sipped complimentary drinks etc in the crumbling South Bank.

It is we allege a disgrace.

2) In any event as said previously any inquiry will in all likelihood be a long drawn out whitewash. A more direct approach to meaningfully address the Bulls fans many legitimate grievances re Odsal etc is required. In doing so a positive, truly independent and fair outcome should materialise. Watch this space.



So effectively, we need to allow full retribution to clear the decks prior to a complete restart, formed by investment from a new Board?
Re: Bulls Takeover
Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:21 am
Posted by martinwildbull on Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:21 am
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who gives a damn about Odsal? The real foundations of a club are the team, not some ancient lump of rotting concrete. As with any financial crisis you liquidate any fixed assets you can, and that is what happened. it kept the team going a while. The real crime is that the time it bought was not put to good use reshaping the business, so once it was gone that opportunity was gone too. Who our props are going to be is much more vital to the future of the club than a rubbish dump on top of a windswept foggy hill. How is any of this going to help us sneak the away points at Fax this season?
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