Re: Saints away 23rd June : Sat May 07, 2022 5:30 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:

What a sensational game that Semi was. Worth remembering that when we nilled the pies a couple of times in 2021 they were apparently the worse Wigan side in years. What a difference a few months, a new coach and a couple of new players makes. Food for thought for anyone who thinks Leeds are a five year job.

It's a 50-year project.

Re: Saints away 23rd June : Sat May 07, 2022 5:55 pm  

Seth wrote:

I feel confident we will see a real upturn, due to returning players but mainly that Agar was a poor coach.

Agar did well did win the CC and rightly got ally of credit. Clearly draining the life out of the side with ‘middles’ and last table options. Overstayed by a year imho but is clearly a good bloke and was well respected within the club.

Re: Saints away 23rd June : Sun May 08, 2022 10:06 am  

ArthurClues wrote:

What a sensational game that Semi was. Worth remembering that when we nilled the pies a couple of times in 2021 they were apparently the worse Wigan side in years. What a difference a few months, a new coach and a couple of new players makes. Food for thought for anyone who thinks Leeds are a five year job.

Agreed. I still say even this season is not done for us. A lot of inconsistency from most sides so when we get the 'army' back who knows

[Frosties.]

Re: Saints away 23rd June : Mon May 09, 2022 6:14 pm  

Good news that this double header game will both be broadcast on sky.

Re: Saints away 23rd June : Tue May 10, 2022 4:53 pm  

Shabino wrote:

Agar did well did win the CC and rightly got ally of credit. Clearly draining the life out of the side with ‘middles’ and last table options. Overstayed by a year imho but is clearly a good bloke and was well respected within the club.

Will everyone please realise we won 1 game in that challenge cup that was an achievement , even in the final we were shocking

Re: Saints away 23rd June : Tue May 10, 2022 5:30 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Will everyone please realise we won 1 game in that challenge cup that was an achievement , even in the final we were shocking

We won the 3 games we had to, we trounced Hull KR in the quarters, Beat Wigan and then beat Salford.

Downplay it all you like, we won it.

Re: Saints away 23rd June : Tue May 10, 2022 6:26 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Will everyone please realise we won 1 game in that challenge cup that was an achievement , even in the final we were shocking

I really don't understand this attitude. If it was so easy to win, why didn't anyone else do it?

Re: Saints away 23rd June : Tue May 10, 2022 6:33 pm  

YosemiteSam wrote:

I really don't understand this attitude. If it was so easy to win, why didn't anyone else do it?

+ it’s probably the only highlight since 2017!

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Wed May 11, 2022 6:48 am  

I don't think its fair to pick on 2020. We won the Cup. Many times with far better teams on paper we've gone out with a whimper.

The problem with 2020 (as with the 2017 GF before it which really was a low quality game) was that it made management think the team and coaching were better than they were, which fed into poor decisions about both coaches and players which are still plaguing us.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Wed May 11, 2022 6:52 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

I don't think its fair to pick on 2020. We won the Cup. Many times with far better teams on paper we've gone out with a whimper.

The problem with 2020 (as with the 2017 GF before it which really was a low quality game) was that it made management think the team and coaching were better than they were, which fed into poor decisions about both coaches and players which are still plaguing us.

Not sure there’s been that many poor decisions. We’ve had rotten luck with injuries and our best young players who would have been the core of the team have hardly played (Ward, Walker, Newman, Holroyd). + we’ve played without any spine continuity.