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Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:28 am  
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I was initially pleased to see Thaler back but mo doubt he will be back in the Championship after missing so much.

I didn`t see the other two so cannot comment but the Sezer trip was blatant and really should have been 4/6.

Reason being it was at the time Salford were very much on top and the trip prevented a clear run and probably 6 points which in the context of the game was key.
Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:16 am  
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I know we need to protect players but this is a contact sport. Of all our recent first team game suspensions the only one that for sure would have led to a ban in the NRL was Tetevano's. Across other games this round just 4 players suspended (which in itself is too many), but suggesting Leeds alone had almost as many players deserving bans from one game which wasn't exactly marked by violence??

I sincerely hope Hetherington is having a go behind the scenes. If its not working then he should go public and call them out, and sod the fines.


It’s funny you should mention the NRL because I think they’re having exactly the same issues over there at the minute, I’ve just watched a segment from Chanel 9, with Gould and Smith questioning the CEO, Andrew Abdo, about what he wants the game to look like, about their current match review panel, about the fact that players accept a certain amount of risk, and even about origin being reffed different. He gave an iffy answer about SOO being higher intensity so therefore needing to be different, then compared the risk to driving a car while still saying we have to take the decision to take that risk away from players.

A lot of this seems to stem from the Dale Finucane 2 game suspension, for what was an ugly clash of heads if anyone saw it, but shouldn’t have been more than that. There’s also been a lot of inconsistencies with hip drop tackles and suspensions, as well as Asofa Solomona not getting called up despite breaking his opponents teeth with what looked an ugly elbow on the floor.

On both sides of the world there seems to be a real disconnect atm between those running and reviewing the sport, those refereeing, those playing and us fans watching.
Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:32 am  
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What's the percentage increase in bans from last year, anyone?? I'm guessing 200% at least.
Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:55 am  
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That's the problem really, that its about being seen to be more strict on bans rather than being more consistent on what is and isn't acceptable on the field. We can all point to numerous incidents that have not resulted in bans where other players have been banned for almost identical actions.

The judiciary of the game are running scared of future litigation and are massively inconsistent in their actions.
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Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:56 am  
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Seth wrote:
What's the percentage increase in bans from last year, anyone?? I'm guessing 200% at least.


If the post on the YEP is correct, and I’ve added them up right, there’s been 114 bans this year. I couldn’t bring myself to add the total number of matches missed or cards dished out. We’re the worst banned though with 20 separate bans in total in 22 games…

Not been able to find data for last year.
Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:59 am  
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That's the problem really, that its about being seen to be more strict on bans rather than being more consistent on what is and isn't acceptable on the field. We can all point to numerous incidents that have not resulted in bans where other players have been banned for almost identical actions.

The judiciary of the game are running scared of future litigation and are massively inconsistent in their actions.


I agree entirely, but would also add, what impact is it having? The number of bans isn’t dropping and if anything is increasing. So either the players aren’t learning (perhaps in some cases…Tetevano) or this approach is not having any impact and they should look at different ways to effect the safety changes they clearly want and maybe need without impacting the product. If the number of bans this high next season for example, then what’s the point, surely the idea of bans is as a deterrent as well as a punishment.
Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:02 am  
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What's the betting though that the bans will dry up around grand final time? Won't look good at old Trafford with 2 teams missing key suspended players.
Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:35 am  
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Seth wrote:
What's the betting though that the bans will dry up around grand final time? Won't look good at old Trafford with 2 teams missing key suspended players.

Doesn’t look good now.
So yea even worse then….
Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:15 am  
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I was initially pleased to see Thaler back but mo doubt he will be back in the Championship after missing so much.
I think many fans and certainly the players were pleased to see him back and he did a good job of running the game generally. He definitely has a better understanding of the game and relationship with players on the field than most if not all of the other refs. Hopefully he won't be dropped for this although the Sezer one is a bit of a cock up (although I have to say I didn't notice it at the time either).
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Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:11 am  
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Seth wrote:
What's the betting though that the bans will dry up around grand final time? Won't look good at old Trafford with 2 teams missing key suspended players.

if they're not arsed about banning our players for nothing when theres 4 games left and we're trying to qualify for the playoffs, i feel like they're not gonna be arsed about stopping if we get there
and teams like saints have been miracously avoiding bans all season (sironen aside), and cant see that changing either
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