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Redvee Tue May 04, 2021 8:17 pm  

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Fascinating and articulate thread on Redvee about where the sport is going.
Definitely worth a (long) read. I chose to come to RL as a teenager as the sport was so damn entertaining. This was early 90's. I had no family or friends who introduced me. Is there much chance of this happening nowadays?
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 7:31 am  
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Most of it is a pathetic whinge list of stuff they say is going wrong but for which they offer no solutions.
They're obsessed with weird ideas like there being some sort of Yorkshire-led conspiracy against poor Lancashire clubs like themselves and that the game is in terrible state compared to... when they won the treble.

A grown up discussion of the inherent challenges the sport faces, the strategic mistakes made in the last couple of years (led ironically by the St Helens club) and how to realistically grow the sport with its limited financial resources would be very useful. This offers none of that, just being a non-stop attack on people they think have wronged them.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 7:59 am  

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The Ghost of '99 wrote:
Most of it is a pathetic whinge list of stuff they say is going wrong but for which they offer no solutions.
They're obsessed with weird ideas like there being some sort of Yorkshire-led conspiracy against poor Lancashire clubs like themselves and that the game is in terrible state compared to... when they won the treble.

A grown up discussion of the inherent challenges the sport faces, the strategic mistakes made in the last couple of years (led ironically by the St Helens club) and how to realistically grow the sport with its limited financial resources would be very useful. This offers none of that, just being a non-stop attack on people they think have wronged them.

There are some good points in there too though....
Can't you see those?
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 8:05 am  

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Shabino wrote:
There are some good points in there too though....
Can't you see those?


None so blind as those that don't want to see!!

Ghost sees no value in any opinions other than his own entrenched vision on matters.
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 8:23 am  

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Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 8:34 am  

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I think it's a fascinating read, and very insightful...
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 8:34 am  
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Shabino wrote:
There are some good points in there too though....
Can't you see those?

Can you tell me one solution in that letter? They've spent a lot of time saying how bad things are and how incompetent the leadership but say nothing on what they would do differently.

I have lots of opinions on how the sport should be run and how things that could be done but when the starting point is so clearly bad faith then it's not really worth engaging.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 8:36 am  
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Shabino wrote:
I think it's a fascinating read, and very insightful...

Insightful really isn't the word. It may look like it superficially but peel back the skin and it's just a grievance list.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 9:11 am  

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The Ghost of '99 wrote:
Insightful really isn't the word. It may look like it superficially but peel back the skin and it's just a grievance list.

You need to open your eyes bit more Ghost......
Re: Redvee Wed May 05, 2021 9:21 am  

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We've always been very good at pointing out the games issues, but it's a lot more complicated than simply incompetent leadership. Although, certain chairman wanted rid of Wood for locking them into a 5 year TV deal, and that was the primary reason for the breakaway, but with hindsight, that looks like it was a masterstroke.
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