Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:42 am  

fanstanningley wrote:

I would play the 3 that lost out Walker,Holdroyd and Smith against Saints.

Agreed. I wouldn't play any of cup final 17 against Saints, and then go strongest possible for the remaining games, as long as there's a chance we can finish in top 4. If we're falling short, then integrate kids. 5th and a cup win is successful season though, given we've already had to sacrifice wins against 2 rivals.

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:46 am  

ploinerrhino wrote:

We are miles off Saints on Saturdays pathetic 2nd half performance so i would be happy to give this one away and try win the remaining games . Our 2nd string side will not beat any other reasonable strength team so i would go with with as strong as possible with obvious one or two rotations after Fridays game

Pathetic is harsh I think Salford deserved a lot credit for givi g Leeds a tough game. The Leeds pack had to really dig in at times in the second half. Our attack did loose its way a bit but we were far from pathetic.

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:58 am  

fanstanningley wrote:

Pathetic is harsh I think Salford deserved a lot credit for givi g Leeds a tough game. The Leeds pack had to really dig in at times in the second half. Our attack did loose its way a bit but we were far from pathetic.

We were terrible second half and didn't really deserve to win, but we have a big game player in Like Gale...

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:54 am  

We had two injuries disrupt how we were planning on playing, went behind, had the patience to get back level then had the smarts to set up two match winning plays.

We weren’t great by any stretch but ‘terrible’ and ‘pathetic’ is not a good description at all, unless for some reason even when we win a trophy you want to have a go at the club.

Salford also played very well but weren’t smart enough at the crucial times.

Of course we deserved to win

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:31 pm  

christopher wrote:

We had two injuries disrupt how we were planning on playing, went behind, had the patience to get back level then had the smarts to set up two match winning plays.

We weren’t great by any stretch but ‘terrible’ and ‘pathetic’ is not a good description at all, unless for some reason even when we win a trophy you want to have a go at the club.

Salford also played very well but weren’t smart enough at the crucial times.

Of course we deserved to win

I wonder how come, as technically salford had more big game experience, so you'd expect them to handle it better.

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:07 pm  

It's actually a positive that we still won, despite that second half.....
We can improve.
1) Walker coming back in
2) Myler playing too well to be dropped, is give him a few games in the halves with Gale.
3) Cam Smith needs to come back in for big minutes. Was great pre injury.

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:31 pm  

christopher wrote:

We had two injuries disrupt how we were planning on playing, went behind, had the patience to get back level then had the smarts to set up two match winning plays.

We weren’t great by any stretch but ‘terrible’ and ‘pathetic’ is not a good description at all, unless for some reason even when we win a trophy you want to have a go at the club.

Salford also played very well but weren’t smart enough at the crucial times.

Of course we deserved to win

100% agree we lost a middle fwd Briscoe also went off & then went behind to a Team who rarely lose when they take lead of a game late on.
Also they played with zero pressure , our lads regrouped got stuck in & took the deserved win it wasnt terrible or pathetic it was finals RL & our kads deserve all the acolades.

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:46 pm  

qoute It's actually a positive that we still won, despite that second half.....
We can improve.
1) Walker coming back in
2) Myler playing too well to be dropped, is give him a few games in the halves with Gale.
3) Cam Smith needs to come back in for big minutes. Was great pre injury. qoute

I hate to say this but I`ve pretty much disagreed with practically all your posts and assumptionsthis year.
Now that doesn`t make you wrong but find it funny this seems to be the case.
With Myler back in the halves it pretty much puts us back where we were before.Disjointed and no link between the forwards and the backs.
Myler`s best position is FB and Walker and Myler can share that role until the end of the season for me.
Smith`s last couple of games imo was poor although prior to that was reasonably good.

But each to their own that`s what this site is all about

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:18 pm  

Shabino wrote:

It's actually a positive that we still won, despite that second half.....
We can improve.
1) Walker coming back in
2) Myler playing too well to be dropped, is give him a few games in the halves with Gale.
3) Cam Smith needs to come back in for big minutes. Was great pre injury.

I don't want Myler anywhere near the half's unless its totally necessary

Re: Saints v Leeds : Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:35 pm  

Yeah I'm not a fan of putting Myler back in at HB either. For me we have 2 sides running alternately for the remainder of the season pretty much, and Walker is FB in one side and Myler the other. I want players playing IN position where we can, and if Myler was only going to play half at Leeds I'd have let him go, personally.

There is an argument to bring in Holroyd, Smith and Walker against Saints - in the hope those boys are a) fresh and b) want to prove a point. It also tells them that they very much are in "the plan", which they may need to be signalled now I don't know. The Saints game is a big one for me: win it and we might have a tilt at the grand final, lose it and it looks very difficult. It's almost like an early eliminator (for us!).

As I've said before though, the problem with swapping Myler and Walker is they're just very different players, and the rest of the team has to adapt.

I do see what people are saying about the tactics of throwing Saints and focusing on the more "winnable" games.

The other side of this is that Saints have had 2 weeks so are fresh yes - but that weekly intensity can sometimes be a benefit. We've seen this in Grand Finals before...