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Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:46 am
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Got to remember how young Cam still is and i see more maturity in him now than in his academy days. In terms of feeding him games at this level i think the club has brought him on nicely but they had him playing as another battering him and while he can do the tough stuff Cam is a ball handler at heart.

Watching him last night i was seeing a lad who has it all and is arguably the best young forward in Super League right now. I walked out of the ground thinking hes now ready to be in the international squad. Hes top class.

As Gotcha says McD was using him all wrong but he did give Cam some game time at a young age and that has helped his development in terms of experience. Kids need to drip fed in to get them to the point Cam is at now.

Really pleased and excited in what weve got with this kid now. Going to be special i think. Thought he was absolutely outstanding last night and hes been excellent all year.

Thought young Mikolaj did well last night again too. Were heading in the right direction at last.
Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:21 am
Posted by chapylad on Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:21 am
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Very good all round performance last night from 1-17.
One player who cops some flak on here is Donaldson who might not make the yards but boy does he run it in hard and makes the tackles well above his weight and size.
Would be a shame to leave him out of the 17 for Greenwood but again it`s a squad game and great if we can rotate players.
Team spirit is good too but the test will come when we are losing and what better than a tough away game in France to keep it going.
Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:41 am
Posted by KaeruJim on Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:41 am
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Whereas we can expect to lose games this season, there isn’t anyone I’m fearful of playing because we are competitive now.

We have to keep the pack moving - we have good halves who can play a bit now, so if we provide a platform we’ll be thereabouts in most games.

I agree with most comments over Smith. What I would add is that he looks physically better this year. He has always had the skill, and he would beast lads his own age, but it’s taken him time to adapt now everyone he’s playing is stronger than him. RL is a very simple game in most respects, and it looks like Cam is now competitive physically again, which allows his skill to shine through. Could be a very good player indeed.

It’s not all about the club. I do wish people would stop McD bashing - most of the lads doing so well last night came through on Brian’s watch and will have had significant input from him. Who’s to say McD wouldn’t also have put Smith at 13 before now had he stayed? Maybe he was just trying to toughen him up to compete at open age, and add something more to his game? Maybe he does know what he’s doing a bit?

Anyway the key difference for me is the balance of the team this year. Everybody Agar / Sinfield has brought in is skilful (possible exception of Hurrell at times) and it’s now showing in the reduction in errors and our ability to apply consistent pressure.
Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:54 am
Posted by tad rhino on Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:54 am
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Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:17 am
Posted by LeedsLurch on Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:17 am
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The biggest point for me is I'm looking forward to games again and not dreading them.
Yes we will lose games this year but I can't see many more Hull type capitulations on the horizon as last year.
A+ for effort and team spirit, will be a succesful season if we can keep that going.
Loving the success and the silverware, keep them coming :)
Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:40 am
Posted by Gotcha on Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:40 am
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KaeruJim wrote:
It’s not all about the club. I do wish people would stop McD bashing - most of the lads doing so well last night came through on Brian’s watch and will have had significant input from him. Who’s to say McD wouldn’t also have put Smith at 13 before now had he stayed? Maybe he was just trying to toughen him up to compete at open age, and add something more to his game? Maybe he does know what he’s doing a bit?


Hang on a minute. Most of the lads came through on McDermotts watch? Most of the lads? What Handley, Oledzki, and Smith? that is most out of 17.

Smith would not have been playing 13 had McDermott still been here, because Smith wouldn't have still been here. You can hide from the problems of McDermott all you like, but it doesn't change the postion then.
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Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:03 am
Posted by christopher on Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:03 am
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LeedsLurch wrote:
The biggest point for me is I'm looking forward to games again and not dreading them.
Yes we will lose games this year but I can't see many more Hull type capitulations on the horizon as last year.
A+ for effort and team spirit, will be a succesful season if we can keep that going.



I agree about looking forward to games, although that dread of capitulation will be there for a while I think, I also think we’ll cop a few good beatings along the way, however I do think we will do enough to be safe fairly early on which if im honest is all i wanted out of this year, low bar I know!

We have had a fairly easy start but how many of us thought we’d be top of the league at this stage, in fact some said we’d be 0 from 5! fair enough it will be short lived but its still 5 years since we have been there.
Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:54 am
Posted by Gotcha on Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:54 am
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I agree about looking forward to games, although that dread of capitulation will be there for a while I think, I also think we’ll cop a few good beatings along the way, however I do think we will do enough to be safe fairly early on which if im honest is all i wanted out of this year, low bar I know!

We have had a fairly easy start but how many of us thought we’d be top of the league at this stage, in fact some said we’d be 0 from 5! fair enough it will be short lived but its still 5 years since we have been there.


I think we are way ahead of what we thought. I am not so sure we have had an easy start though, Toronto aside. And of course things might have been totally different had the Huddersfield game gone ahead and a defeat had happened.

I think people still under estimate our Warrington performance, who are not a bad team, and are still fancied for honours. I don't think last night we came anything close to that Warrington performance, certainly not in terms of defence, which to be honest was quite awful last light. Considering had it not been for the ref mistake Toronto probably wouldn't have scored, that might sound harsh, but I personally thought defensively we were woeful all the way through. Attacking wise was top notch, but Toronto were simply garbage, which the week before we made Warrington play the way they did.
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Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:11 pm
Posted by christopher on Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:11 pm
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Gotcha wrote:
I think we are way ahead of what we thought. I am not so sure we have had an easy start though, Toronto aside. And of course things might have been totally different had the Huddersfield game gone ahead and a defeat had happened.

I think people still under estimate our Warrington performance, who are not a bad team, and are still fancied for honours. I don't think last night we came anything close to that Warrington performance, certainly not in terms of defence, which to be honest was quite awful last light. Considering had it not been for the ref mistake Toronto probably wouldn't have scored, that might sound harsh, but I personally thought defensively we were woeful all the way through. Attacking wise was top notch, but Toronto were simply garbage, which the week before we made Warrington play the way they did.



I agree about defence and I think Agar does too as he mentioned it in the presser, we seemed to be flapping at them a bit, other than Prior who I think is a fabulous signing.

Also agree on Warrington we absolutely bossed them and made them look worse than they are
Re: RD 6 | Toronto Wolfpack (H)
Post Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:28 pm
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Also credit to Agar or is it Sinfield, Webster or JJB for unpicking Toronto`s D that McDermott mentioned a couple of times.
Didn`t he say we were the best team yet to do this?
If that`s true then Agar`s tactics were spot on similar to the tactics used against Wire going big in the pack.
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