Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:44 am  

I am the one who try’s to be optimistic, I don’t want Agar, but we will end up with a coach who KS and GH want. I don’t buy into what the players say, good coach or not we are still only two points above bottom team. Let’s look at his CV, a list of his failures and his sackings, short term he may have improved the defence, but we are still only two pints off the bottom and we have still been losing to the bottom teams at home. All you have to do is listen to the fans of the teams who he has coached. His CV is terrible, he has won nowt, he hasn’t over any length of time improved any team where he has coached. That is a fact, so why will he start to change now.
It’s likely we will finish 5th from bottom this season, we are in the same group as we was when he took over, being optimistic I can say we are what is called

CREAM OF THE CRAP.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:49 am  

Will you be speaking to the Director who told you Agar would only be until the end of the season and no more on Friday night Brodie??

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:59 am  

I was told when Furner was sacked that Agar only had it to the end of the season. This was from someone who could not get any closer to GH.
Listening to GH on Friday after the game he put a hell of a spin on the result, couldn’t believe my ears. He just seemed relieved that we’re still in SL next season. The sad truth was he asked the young stand off to speak whilst justifying him playing at Fev, when he should have been given a game for us. I just don’t understand what is happening, they are living in a different age to what the supporters are going through.
The Marketing team have not spoken to me this year, now since last Sunday I’m receiving emails, shaking hands with people etc , it’s unbelievable.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:01 am  

At the end of the day the call has been made, and it wasn’t unexpected.

I’ll judge Agar based on the chance to change the squad up a little bit more for 2020, get a full pre-season in and let the new recruits properly bed in. I’m not massively confident but I’m open minded on him.

If the club is smart, they’ll make it an appointment on a year-by-year basis with a break clause if a new head coach is identified, whereupon Agar takes up his oversight role again. Then everyone is clear.

If a miracle happens and Agar takes the side towards trophies they can think again: for now I still see this as partly a caretaker role while they finish brushing out the squad and reshaping it.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:16 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

At the end of the day the call has been made, and it wasn’t unexpected.

I’ll judge Agar based on the chance to change the squad up a little bit more for 2020, get a full pre-season in and let the new recruits properly bed in. I’m not massively confident but I’m open minded on him.

If the club is smart, they’ll make it an appointment on a year-by-year basis with a break clause if a new head coach is identified, whereupon Agar takes up his oversight role again. Then everyone is clear.

If a miracle happens and Agar takes the side towards trophies they can think again: for now I still see this as partly a caretaker role while they finish brushing out the squad and reshaping it.

That’s exactly as I see it. Essentially still caretaker until the right person is found. Clearly we were in for Powell so Agar obviously isn’t the club’s ideal choice and I doubt he’ll be the choice long term.

I think some people are also underestimating the risk of bringing someone else in who doesn’t work out. We’ve had a massive change in personnel both on and off the field. A bit of stability for a year whilst we rebuild may not be the terrible option some people are predicting.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:23 am  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

Im more interested in how theyr going this year with him, if one player can get Salford playing how they are, theres no reason for us to be talking about reshaping our squad over multiple years before we can be a good team again.

Just backs up what im saying, Watson loses his best players all the time, replaces them with players nobody wants, gets them playing well, then loses them players aswel.
Salford will also be losing Josh Jones, another player nobody was queing up for when they got him, now he'sone of the best backrowers in the comp. Everybody thought theyd drop off when they lost Lui and replaced him with Tui, who was terrible for us, theyr still flying and apparently Tuis playing well for them....Very good coach, just keeping them up every year is an accomplishment, playing good rugby and challenging for playoffs now and again is top class work from him.

But we Sign 2 big name marquees, more NRL forwards, one of watsons halfs...And we have to wait years to be up there?? Not for me, if Agars the right man, we should be up there vying for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th places nxt season and be a fighting chance against the best teams. I think he's a bad hire, but if he does that, il be over the moon to be wrong and genuinly happy for him, he seems a proper good bloke and i want him to do well, thats the positive im taking from the hire, that a good bloke gets the chance to get his career going in the right direction.

Great post that.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:25 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Why are you completely ignoring the fixtures when calling this? The points difference and indeed win record, are completely and utterly irrelevant when you look at the fixtures, and in comparison to first half of season. Do you really see this current side going away to Saints, Warrington, and Wigan and changing the result? Good god we even won at Salford first half of year, and are now losing at home.

That is not saying an improvement wouldn’t be there if played again now. But it is ridiculous to compare two totally different circumstances as some sort of excuse for this appointment.

A question was asked I just answered it that's all

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:39 am  

I can see Ryan Carr having a more significant role at Leeds going forward overseeing the coaching structure and junior player development under Agar.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:43 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Why are you completely ignoring the fixtures when calling this? The points difference and indeed win record, are completely and utterly irrelevant when you look at the fixtures, and in comparison to first half of season. Do you really see this current side going away to Saints, Warrington, and Wigan and changing the result? Good god we even won at Salford first half of year, and are now losing at home.

That is not saying an improvement wouldn’t be there if played again now. But it is ridiculous to compare two totally different circumstances as some sort of excuse for this appointment.

The best performances of the season in my opinion was Saints away in week 4, Salford away in week 3 and the 2 wins versus Cas. Furner was coach in 3 of those.

But weve got to move on now.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:44 am  

Him wrote:

That’s exactly as I see it. Essentially still caretaker until the right person is found. Clearly we were in for Powell so Agar obviously isn’t the club’s ideal choice and I doubt he’ll be the choice long term.

I think some people are also underestimating the risk of bringing someone else in who doesn’t work out. We’ve had a massive change in personnel both on and off the field. A bit of stability for a year whilst we rebuild may not be the terrible option some people are predicting.

Totally agree with the second paragraph , not only would I say its not the terrible option but I think its the correct option