Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:10 am  

ade gardener was top try s other more than once. he was crap.
with a world class centre inside him though

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:14 am  

Spoke to the power that be yesterday and he said I will be happy at 4.40 tomorrow afternoon, there we go guys expect us to be winning, what he did not say was, will we still be happy at 4.45 tomorrow.
As much as I'm not happy with the performance of the team and Furner in particular I cannot see him being sacked. In my humble opinion I think the directors now understand that simply promoting players from within and signing young players with promise in the hope they turn into quality is a thing of the past and you first need quality in the team to build a team. Unfortunately our quality has retired and we are building a team from nothing. I am sure Furner knew the problems before he came and he has been given certain assurances, no doubt one of them was job security and what are the expectations from the board going forward. I think Huddersfield game is important and if we can squeeze a win then with the injuries Wakefield have we may have a good Easter. I am hoping that he has the courage to give youth a chance as opposed to the continuing inclusion of underperforming senior players

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:26 am  

Exactly, why we persist with players who are obviously just going through the motions is beyond me.

Im not saying stuff the team with unproven academy products but we have lads in there who are young, hungry and champing at the bit to get out and show their worth, instead we persist with dross.

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:26 am  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

Exactly, why we persist with players who are obviously just going through the motions is beyond me.

Im not saying stuff the team with unproven academy products but we have lads in there who are young, hungry and champing at the bit to get out and show their worth, instead we persist with dross.

Who out of interest would you say is going through the motions? Not that I disagree, but I think the problem is more a lack of ability across the squad rather than lack of effort...

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:02 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

I'd say hes got 3 games. Interesting week ahead

Its make or break for Furner, we win 3 out if next 4 should be ok. Lose next three, he has to go regardless of anything else. 1 from next 4 also has to go.

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:56 am  

I’d be stunned if Furner was sacked even if we lose next 4 in a row. We were poor at end under mCD, no better under lowes/sinfield and now still pretty poor under Furner. We need to take a 2/3 year view for mine.

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:17 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

Its make or break for Furner, we win 3 out if next 4 should be ok. Lose next three, he has to go regardless of anything else. 1 from next 4 also has to go.

Unless there is real division in the camp (I've not seen anyone show any signs of that) Sacking Furner could actually have a detrimental effect, I know this is SS.com and there's always been a 'coach' out mentality but I'm firmly of the opinion that Sacking Furner will not get any more from this bunch of players, it would be the opposite.

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:35 pm  

Mark Laurie wrote:

I’d be stunned if Furner was sacked even if we lose next 4 in a row. We were poor at end under mCD, no better under lowes/sinfield and now still pretty poor under Furner. We need to take a 2/3 year view for mine.

we have not got 2-3 year view though have we, lose the next 4 or 3 of next 4 and religation is a real possibility, so far Furner has not shown he can get the best out of the group of players, regardless of how bad or the squad is perceived, we need to see improvements particularity on defense and we need results sooner not later. For the record i don't want Furner sacked but i don't want to lose 3 or 4 of the next 4 games either. We need to simply stop shipping in 3-4 soft tries every game and giving away cheap yards soft yards and cheap penalties, hopefully Agar may have had a positive impact on defense, but our defense need to improve and we need to start shipping in 50% less points (at least) and we should start winning some games.

[Bullseye]

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:46 pm  

The lack of quality in the squad and specifically leadership is the problem. A coach can’t solve that overnight.

Merrin coming in adds a leader. You need a few more. There was a vacuum left when Sinfield, Peacock and McGuire moved on.

Re: SL RD 11 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:14 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

we have not got 2-3 year view though have we, lose the next 4 or 3 of next 4 and religation is a real possibility, so far Furner has not shown he can get the best out of the group of players, regardless of how bad or the squad is perceived, we need to see improvements particularity on defense and we need results sooner not later. For the record i don't want Furner sacked but i don't want to lose 3 or 4 of the next 4 games either. We need to simply stop shipping in 3-4 soft tries every game and giving away cheap yards soft yards and cheap penalties, hopefully Agar may have had a positive impact on defense, but our defense need to improve and we need to start shipping in 50% less points (at least) and we should start winning some games.

I think relegation is possible now and will be whoever is the Coach. Totally agree about the defence. FWIW if we can get a few more forwards fit and Merrin and Ava in , plus hopefully Watkins gets better we will be Ok but by that I mean 11th or 10th. I think a 4th coach in under 12 months could seal relegation but let’s hope we see more of the performance v cas in next few weeks rather than HKR.