Re: Union club blame game : Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:49 pm  

I honestly couldn’t care less

Re: Union club blame game : Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:19 pm  

Should never have changed from Leeds to Yorkshire. Loads turned away after this. Change back to Leeds and they have a chance to rebuild. Stay as it is and it'll be dead in 4 years

[Frosties.]

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:08 pm  

I personally don’t think they’ll be around next year when they are relegated to the third tier of unions game, especially when the crowds are low at HQ already.

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:26 am  

I’m sure a reasonably successful Union side could have been a benefit to the Rhinos in terms of cost sharing and profits from the facilities.

But that’s just a massive pathetic whinge from McGeechan.

If he didn’t like the arrangement then renegotiate it or pay for your own bloody staff and pay the full market rate of playing in the stadium.

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:45 pm  

loinertillidie wrote:

My understanding is that Hetherington got spooked by the figures. When Leeds Tykes were in the Premiership and looking to cement their stature as a club, it was explained to both Caddick and Hetherington that for the money that they were paying their International RL players they wouldn't get anyone good enough to compete in the Premiership. If they wanted to compete they had to pay the cash.

Caddick got this and was happy to go go for it, Hetherington flat refused to pay middle of the road Union players twice what World Class League players were on.
For me allowing Hetherington to have his way killed Carnegie as a club. It takes time, had Caddick persisted the Union side would be a serious brand. As it is it is failing.

I'm not surprised GH was spooked by the figures, they're mind bending. Two top players at many RU clubs will earn the entire SL cap. Saracens lose 2-3 million quid a year on top of a cap of 7.5 million + the extra they are allowed to spend over that for their internationals and plus all the money they were siphoning into player "businesses".
It's a shame, I agree, there must be loads of great young players who have to travel elsewhere to play.

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:18 pm  

Gloves come off Gary hits back at " sir" Ian

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:00 pm  

The wages in RU are utterly unsustainable even with their much higher income. To compete you've got to be willing and able to sustain big losses every year. Pro RU like many sports is not a 'business' in any normal sense. If Leeds saw that and backed off sobeit.

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:30 am  

I don't pay much attention to premiership RU, but last time I looked attendances were brutally the she as super league's. I know there are other factor's like a better TV deal, and additional income from what was the Heineken cup, but it feels like there isn't the base for all cost unless the trickle down from internationals is significant.

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:58 pm  

The Eagle wrote:

I don't pay much attention to premiership RU, but last time I looked attendances were brutally the she as super league's. I know there are other factor's like a better TV deal, and additional income from what was the Heineken cup, but it feels like there isn't the base for all cost unless the trickle down from internationals is significant.

You're not far wrong.
Having said that Wasps were pulling over 20k per home game a couple of seasons ago after they moved to Coventry and Bath are sold out every home game -but the ground is very small. The international game though is on a different planet. I guess it's a bit like cricket in that regard.

Re: OT | Yorkshire Carnegie : Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:13 pm  

If Yorkshire Carnegie move away from Headingley could we see the revival of a lower league RL club playing out of Headingley? Would be great to see Bramley playing in League One on dual reg with Leeds.