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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sun May 05, 2019 10:34 am  
You're becoming statto Gotcha. Could you tell me how many of the 50 he was 3rd man in? Or how many of those 50 he won the collisions in please?

Which try did he assist in also? Oledski was a 1 man barge through 3 or 4 men, Newman went from dummy half, far more effectively than Parcell did all night, and Handleys try was from a lovely kick from Cam Smith.
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sun May 05, 2019 10:48 am  
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You're becoming statto Gotcha. Could you tell me how many of the 50 he was 3rd man in? Or how many of those 50 he won the collisions in please?

Which try did he assist in also? Oledski was a 1 man barge through 3 or 4 men, Newman went from dummy half, far more effectively than Parcell did all night, and Handleys try was from a lovely kick from Cam Smith.


I’m no stato, I am just pointing out there is more to the game than one moment of wonder. You should know that. The important unnoticed work is of equal importance. In this particular case it is at least a damn site more than “bugger all”.
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sun May 05, 2019 11:05 am  
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I’m no stato, I am just pointing out there is more to the game than one moment of wonder. You should know that. The important unnoticed work is of equal importance. In this particular case it is at least a damn site more than “bugger all”.



It all depends on your expectation of a player. Grafting is a minimum requirement for me for a Leeds player. It's something I expect from every player but that alone isnt good enough for Leeds. Believe me if I played for Leeds I would give my all but that doesn't mean I should be playing for the club.

Hard workers play for teams like Halifax, Fev, Widnes etc players at clubs like Leeds, Saints and Wigan should tackle players who run at them but should also offer quality in other areas. That's the difference. In your opinion a player like Donaldson is good enough for Leeds because you can say he made 24 tackles and only missed one. That's fine but to me that isn't enough, I expect that from all players as part of the job but what else does he bring?

Jsmes Roby makes 50 tackles every week but he also offers quality in other areas that's why he is a great player. He shoots out of the ruck at the right time, he delivers the ball at the right time to the right person, he kicks well and makes the right decisions.

Parcell was poor on Friday in my opinion. Several passes went above or behind the receiver. That's not acceptable to me for a Leeds number 9.

I expected Parcell, who wasn't the worst by any means to have done more to secure a starting spot going forward. I didnt see it. We can all hide behind numbers but his overall distribution his contact in collision and his impact offensively was not good enough.

I often said on here that Parcell is by far the best 9 at Leeds but he isn't doing enough to win the 9 shirt and Dwyer is rightly ahead of him st the moment and that needs to be questioned. If you cant see that you need to look again.

Did he do enough on Fri to take the starting 9 spot from Dwyer, absolutely 100% and emphatically not. Hes an overseas player and I, maybe wrongly, expect quality from those players.

Now if we are hiding behind stats I ask again which try did he assist in as I would love to know just to convince me these stats can be believed? Was it the Mikolaj, Newman or Handley try?
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sun May 05, 2019 11:18 am  
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It all depends on your expectation of a player. Grafting is a minimum requirement for me for a Leeds player. It's something I expect from every player but that alone isnt good enough for Leeds. Believe me if I played for Leeds I would give my all but that doesn't mean I should be playing for the club.

Parcell was poor on Friday in my opinion. Several passes went above or behind the receiver. That's not acceptable to me for a Leeds number 9.

I expected Parcell, who wasn't the worst by any means to have done more to secure a starting spot going forward. I didnt see it. We can all hide behind numbers but his overall distribution his contact in collision and his impact offensively was not good enough.

I often said on here that Parcell is by far the best 9 at Leeds but he isn't doing enough to win the 9 shirt and Dwyer is rightly ahead of him st the moment and that needs to be questioned. If you cant see that you need to look again.

Did he do enough on Fri to take the starting 9 spot from Dwyer, absolutely 100% and emphatically not. Hes an overseas player and I, maybe wrongly, expect quality from those players.

Now if we are hiding behind stats I ask again which try did he assist in as I would love to know just to convince me these stats can be believed? Was it the Mikolaj, Newman or Handley try?


Now you are just moving goal posts. I am in agreement on the Parcell Dwyer argument, and that is also a change from me. That wasn’t The point though. You said he did “bugger all”, that was clearly and emphatically incorrect. You were ignoring important aspects of the game, and that was all I was pointing out.

Your comment on expecting more in other areas, I am not in anyway disagreeing with.
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sat May 11, 2019 11:25 am  
19s currently 12-6 up at HT at Sodall Tip but dominated the half. Fair play to Bulls goal line D.

Would love to see Iwan Stephens in the halves. Kid can really play. Not sure it would work but I'd like to see it tried.
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sat May 11, 2019 11:34 am  
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sat May 11, 2019 12:15 pm  
Bulls 6 Leeds 52 FT.
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sat May 11, 2019 12:28 pm  
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Bulls 6 Leeds 52 FT.

Who were the standouts Marty?
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sat May 11, 2019 1:07 pm  
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Who were the standouts Marty?


Pack was much stronger this week with Holroyd and Moorhouse back.

Muizz, Dupree, Johnson all very good. Stephens quality at back and I'm gonna praise our young centres who seem to do a good job, young TJ Barton and Joe Burton.

Pack won it tho. Could've been well clear in 1st half but Bulls goal line d was fantastic.
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Re: 2019 l Academy U19s : Sat May 11, 2019 1:09 pm  
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19s currently 12-6 up at HT at Sodall Tip but dominated the half. Fair play to Bulls goal line D.

Would love to see Iwan Stephens in the halves. Kid can really play. Not sure it would work but I'd like to see it tried.


You'd think he's end up at 6 or 1. He's too good and too small for the wing.
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