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Post Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:25 pm
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:25 pm
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christopher wrote:
Don’t forget both Catalans and Warrington were in a similar (catalans worse!) position last year and they have turned it around with minimal player changes, I believe we can do the same as we aren’t going to get 5 new players in the off season

We’ve already announced 2 new signings. 3 more is certainly feasible.
Re: 2018 | Middle 8s
Post Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:28 pm
Posted by Gotcha on Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:28 pm
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lionarmour87 wrote:
I still think we are better than this ,it doesn't make us good ,but we are due a decent performance .I think leeds will win 32 16


I think Salford are over rated. I think Hull KR are better.
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Post Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:37 pm
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:37 pm
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Gotcha wrote:
I think Salford are over rated. I think Hull KR are better.

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/h ... ford/49780
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Post Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:22 pm
Posted by Trebor1 on Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:22 pm
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The Chin's Back wrote:
It shows how poor we are as a side at present when we're actually thinking that we can actually beat Salford at home because Jackson Hastings could be possibly suspended :roll:


Indeed but that's the reality we have to deal with at present. The reasons behind this are many but we are where we are at present so let's get behind the team and help the club rebuild
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Post Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:28 pm
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[quote="Sir Kevin Sinfield"]http://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/hull-k-r-vs-salford/49780[/quote]


Yeah they did beat us in the qualifiers but three weeks earlier we put 50 on them we just didn’t turn up that night
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Post Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:35 pm
Posted by Mark Laurie on Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:35 pm
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Salford have only conceded 36 points in 4 games, Leeds have let in nearly 100. We need big improvement in both defence and attack to win. Hopefully Ward and Cuthbo will be back and Hastings misses out. Praying for a win and salvation in this scrubbers scramble.
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Post Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:47 pm
Posted by BrisbaneRhino on Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:47 pm
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According to Peter Smith Cuthbertson was dropped. If so that would speak volumes about his contribution when it matters and how utterly crazy it was to give him two more years.
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:00 am
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BrisbaneRhino wrote:
According to Peter Smith Cuthbertson was dropped. If so that would speak volumes about his contribution when it matters and how utterly crazy it was to give him two more years.


No, if true, yesterdays match showed how silly it was to drop him. Fair enough if you have the replacements to do it, but we don't, and we struggled as a result.
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:10 am
Posted by BrisbaneRhino on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:10 am
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We struggled because Cuthbertson wasn't playing? Isn't it more a case of we struggled because we're generally rubbish, just as in most games this season, with or without him?

He was dropped for the most important match of the year bar none. That speaks volumes for what Sinfield and Lowes think of his contributions since they've taken over. He's our most experienced prop by far, and the player we ought to be able to look to for on-field leadership - hard runs and leading the way in defence. The reality is he provides no leadership by example in the tough stuff. Having a beard doesn't actually make a prop IMO. And yes, I think assuming a 35-year old will somehow be good when he isn't much cop at 33 is crazy.
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:17 am
Posted by Gotcha on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:17 am
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BrisbaneRhino wrote:
We struggled because Cuthbertson wasn't playing? Isn't it more a case of we struggled because we're generally rubbish, just as in most games this season, with or without him?

He was dropped for the most important match of the year bar none. That speaks volumes for what Sinfield and Lowes think of his contributions since they've taken over. He's our most experienced prop by far, and the player we ought to be able to look to for on-field leadership - hard runs and leading the way in defence. The reality is he provides no leadership by example in the tough stuff. Having a beard doesn't actually make a prop IMO. And yes, I think assuming a 35-year old will somehow be good when he isn't much cop at 33 is crazy.


I think you are very much missing the point with this agenda you seem to have against the player.

I repeat what I posted whilst at the match yesterday. We had an awful lot of territory at the game, but at no point did we actually look like scoring. We badly missed his attacking threat in that regard. We do not have have the replacemetns to come in and fill that role, and as a result we struglled. Yesterday could have very easily have been a loss, and that my friend would have been a direct result of not having that attacking threat.

His replacment ysterday was Thomson. He missed 9 tackles in that game, which is 20% of what Cuthbertson has missed the entire season. His metres per carry were a yard less than what Cuthbertson has averaged the entire season. You see where I am going with this?

Now, all the things you say could well be true, and at the same time can very much be put at the door of plenty of other players also, but if you do not have a replacement who can give you what the player does, then for me it is stupid to drop. His perfomrances also are absolutely nowhere near as bad as you are making out in anycase, not when in comparison to others. But does that make his two year deal worthwhile or justified? no it doesn't but that is for a later date, not right now.
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