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Re: stadium planning permission
Post Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:46 pm
Posted by Him on Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:46 pm
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its out of order to try and blackmail supporters into pressing for planning consent in an area that for the majority wont have any connection with, it should be a local matter made on its merits not something that is supported just because of the club. Jus.t like the playing side it looks like theres no plan B as well

It's neither out of order nor is it blackmail to ask supporters to support the club.

Leeds City Council have been nothing but a hindrance to the only sports club in the city that can run at a profit and is consistently successful. Yet have shovelled millions of pounds at the cricket club along with bending over backwards to provide planning for that monstrosity of a cricket stand.

That is why Hetherington tied in the South Stand as instrumental to the North Stand going ahead, because of the Council.

Leeds will be very very very reluctant to let the North Stand redevelopment go ahead before the South Stand. It could cripple the club for years.
Re: stadium planning permission
Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:59 am
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This will backfire. Any support will be seen as being blindly provided because the club begged its support base rather than on the developments meit. I suspect the council will take a dim view and it could do more harm than good.


Nonsense.
If the club's supporters don't back the application the council would definitely be able to point to that as being a reason not to approve the applications.
All the local people opposing the application would have nowhere to live themselves if those who lived in their locality before their houses were built had objected.
Whatever we think the council should & will determine the applications based on planning criteria.
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Re: stadium planning permission
Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:39 am
Posted by Andy Gilder on Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:39 am
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Him wrote:
It's neither out of order nor is it blackmail to ask supporters to support the club.

Leeds City Council have been nothing but a hindrance to the only sports club in the city that can run at a profit and is consistently successful. Yet have shovelled millions of pounds at the cricket club along with bending over backwards to provide planning for that monstrosity of a cricket stand.

That is why Hetherington tied in the South Stand as instrumental to the North Stand going ahead, because of the Council.

Leeds will be very very very reluctant to let the North Stand redevelopment go ahead before the South Stand. It could cripple the club for years.


And all of that is set out in the planning application.

If its merits are that good, why does it need GH to go around whipping up a rent-a-mob?

It's crass and classless from the club.
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Re: stadium planning permission
Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:13 pm
Posted by SmokeyTA on Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:13 pm
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What an odd criticism of the club.
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Re: stadium planning permission
Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:12 pm
Posted by Andy Gilder on Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:12 pm
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What an odd criticism of the club.


What, that it has so little confidence in the arguments it put forward that it has to go asking fans to bombard the council?

I would hope that the club had the class to let the planning process take its course without having to lean on fans to lobby on its behalf.
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Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:01 pm
Posted by Him on Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:01 pm
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Why wouldn't the club want fans to lobby on its behalf?

I really really don't get why it's "crass", "classless", "blackmail", or "out of order".

They're asking people to support the planning proposal. In the same way as there are always groups objecting to planning proposals.

This is akin to the "screwing the fans out of money" whenever a club brings a new shirt out.
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Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:23 pm
Posted by Andy Gilder on Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:23 pm
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Because this isn't X Factor, and weight of public opinion among those people who aren't directly impacted in any meaningful way shouldn't influence planning decisions.
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Re: stadium planning permission
Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:38 pm
Posted by Sal Paradise on Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:38 pm
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Him wrote:
Why wouldn't the club want fans to lobby on its behalf?

I really really don't get why it's "crass", "classless", "blackmail", or "out of order".

They're asking people to support the planning proposal. In the same way as there are always groups objecting to planning proposals.

This is akin to the "screwing the fans out of money" whenever a club brings a new shirt out.


Because the planning application should be able to stand on its own merits - getting a load of supports to write to the council will not change the technicalities of the application. The planners will either pass it on its merits/legalities or not.
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Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:03 pm
Posted by leedslad on Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:03 pm
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Andy Gilder wrote:
Because this isn't X Factor, and weight of public opinion among those people who aren't directly impacted in any meaningful way shouldn't influence planning decisions.


But surely that's the point, the stadium (cricket and rugby) is an asset to the whole city and therefore we are all directly impacted. Headingley is a world famous tourist attraction seen on TV by millions whom otherwise see nothing else of Leeds on TV... The better Headingley does the better the impact for our local economy...
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Post Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:30 pm
Posted by Old Feller on Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:30 pm
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But surely that's the point, the stadium (cricket and rugby) is an asset to the whole city and therefore we are all directly impacted. Headingley is a world famous tourist attraction seen on TV by millions whom otherwise see nothing else of Leeds on TV... The better Headingley does the better the impact for our local economy...

Exactly, hence the reason the city council lent YCCC £7m (or so) to buy the cricket ground from Caddick when they threatened to relocate to Durkar.
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