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Whitehead and Kopzcak.

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Elima, Kopczak, Whitehead plus bringing back Amor from Wakey would do nicely.


If we sign poop like Elima, then bang goes my season ticket. We already have an average backrow, and one of them the same type of player in Hauraki. Hauraki is poor but better than Elima, and already has a contract to be paid.

To be honest you can keep Kopczak and Whitehead too.

If we make signings it needs to be improvements to what we have, or a long term plan improvement. I can't see what the Bulls offer that would fall under that criteria. Cheap doesn't make it worthwhile.
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Garry needs to write a cheque for £20,000 in exchange for some players, though not sure they have 7 that he would want

Bulls fans must be sick that they've effectively been conned by the club they support.

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Id have to disagree re Elima, I think he provides far more aggression both in attack and defence than anyone currently in our second row.
Kopczak is currently better than any of our young props, and I'd suggest Whitehead & Elima provide more than Clarkson, Kirke or Hauraki.

I believe you have been calling for changes to the squad for a while, who else that is available would you like us to sign?

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Id have to disagree re Elima, I think he provides far more aggression both in attack and defence than anyone currently in our second row.
Kopczak is currently better than any of our young props, and I'd suggest Whitehead & Elima provide more than Clarkson, Kirke or Hauraki.

I believe you have been calling for changes to the squad for a while, who else that is available would you like us to sign?


Elima will be back at Catalan apparently.

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Elima, Kopczak, Whitehead plus bringing back Amor from Wakey would do nicely.


I'd agree.

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Who is the one running it who will be in trouble here? They have openly admitted that a six figure offer was on the table for Bateman, and have indicated that offers were made for one or two others.

That been the case they could have paid a large portion of debt before getting to this point, but chose to keep hold of the players.


Problem being the players themselves have to agree to personal terms on any new deal.. Both bateman and whitehead were desperate to stay at their home town club.
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I believe you have been calling for changes to the squad for a while, who else that is available would you like us to sign?



Yes, calling for squad changes. Not desperate signings. Players like Elima belong at the likes of Bulls, Cas, Wakefield, Salford, London. Not at a team with aspirations to challenge for trophies.

I want changes that will allow us to repeat what we have done for the last 8 years, not take us back to pre that era. Our own youngsters are better than the likes of Whitehead and Kopczak, and our senior players are miles ahead of the likes of Elima.

If I was to take anyone from that side that we are likely to get it would be Scruton, under the proviso that he can prove his fitness. Still the right age to take one of those prop positions.
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Wouldn't want any of them IF we can promote from within and sign better elsewhere.
I would take Bateman but he's not worth the ££££££ been bandied about imo and possibly Manakafoa on a short term deal to test his worth.
As for Whithead he's no better than Delaney ,Jjb and Ablett imo and nowhere near as good as Ward will be.
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Him wrote:
Id have to disagree re Elima, I think he provides far more aggression both in attack and defence than anyone currently in our second row.


More than a little hard on JJB. I like Elima but I'd want 3 of him in exchange for JJB.
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