Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:26 am  

rhinoms wrote:

I'm sure the London Broncos share your sentiment!!

I couldn't, frankly, care less whether the Broncos share my sentiment or not.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:07 pm  

Gotcha, I am astonished at your appraisal of Elima. He is a fantastic player. In fact, if he could improve his discipline he'd be one of the better 2nd rowers in the league.

And to state Hauraki is better? I am better than Hauraki. He's wavered between plain awful and fairly average in his time here.

That said, I agree with your overall assessment of which players from the Bulls we crave.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:13 pm  

I hope all clubs feel the same way about our players as Gotcha does.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:22 pm  

G1 wrote:

Gotcha, I am astonished at your appraisal of Elima. He is a fantastic player. In fact, if he could improve his discipline he'd be one of the better 2nd rowers in the league.

And to state Hauraki is better? I am better than Hauraki. He's wavered between plain awful and fairly average in his time here.

That said, I agree with your overall assessment of which players from the Bulls we crave.

Hock is the best second rower in the league by a a long distance. He has discipline issues, but still can lay claim to that stature.

If Elima was even half as good as you are suggesting, he wouldn't be at the Bulls. But you are entiltled to your view, as anyone else. Good luck to that.

Make no mistake Hauraki was a poor signing, and a poor player, I won't be arguing against that. Elima would give us nothing that he currently doesn't give us. Hauraki shouldnt' be a measure for signing any player.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:28 pm  

The issue with Elima has never been what he can give you, more what he actually gives you. Strong carries, but a tendency to give away dumb penalties and get too easily goaded into losing it. Leeds already have that well covered IMO.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:40 pm  

Elima has given away 1 less penalty than Ablett this year and 3 less than Delaney.

He's an aggressive player sure, but his discipline isn't as bad as you'd think.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:07 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Hock is the best second rower in the league by a a long distance. He has discipline issues, but still can lay claim to that stature.
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Agreed.

If Elima was even half as good as you are suggesting, he wouldn't be at the Bulls.

So, by that rationale, Craig Huby must be really pants as he's at Cas. Can't have it both ways.

Besides, Elima won't be at the Bulls next year. He'll be at a club currently in the top 4.

Make no mistake Hauraki was a poor signing, and a poor player, I won't be arguing against that. Elima would give us nothing that he currently doesn't give us.

Not trying to be clever but I don't understand "Elima would give us nothing that he currently doesn't give us".

Hauraki shouldnt' be a measure for signing any player

So why did you introduce the comparison? I'm not suggesting we should sign Elima, besides, it's moot, he'll be at a top 4 club next year. I'm suggesting he's better than Hauraki.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:14 pm  

G1 wrote:

So, by that rationale, Craig Huby must be really pants as he's at Cas. Can't have it both ways.

G1 wrote:

Besides, Elima won't be at the Bulls next year. He'll be at a club currently in the top 4.

Define top 4? If you mean Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Saints, there is more chance of me having a foursome with Cheryl Cole, Rihanna, and Holly Willobooby.

G1 wrote:

Not trying to be clever but I don't understand "Elima would give us nothing that he currently doesn't give us".

Like Ronseal, what it says on the tin. As poor as Hauraki is, Elima would offer us nothing more than he currently gives us.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:21 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Having a foursome with Cheryl Cole, Rihanna, and Holly Willobooby

This.

Re: £££ Bulls Fire Sale! £££ : Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:38 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

The issue with Elima has never been what he can give you, more what he actually gives you. Strong carries, but a tendency to give away dumb penalties and get too easily goaded into losing it. Leeds already have that well covered IMO.

They don't reallt have the strong carries bit covered. That's why he'd be a good signing.