Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun May 12, 2024 2:05 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

John Wilkin really grinds my gears, but everything he said in last nights game broadcast was in the money and he summed up everything thats wrong with the team.

Same.

Other week RS had me agreeing with a Bradford fan, this week it's Wilkin.
That's horrible

Re: Rowley : Tue May 14, 2024 9:40 am  

I'm still watching Leeds and wanting to see signs of recovery under RS; we need bodies back to do that.

However. He has left himself at risk of bad luck now: if Croft or one or two other key players gets injured, I don't think he'll survive the backlash from fans simply on the number of losses, and I think his recruitment has been too patchy so far.

I'm not sure Rowley is the right man to replace him if it happens, or if he would come. Demetriou is a potential candidate; his star was very high over there for a while, he knows the English game - maybe he would take the chance to rebuild his reputation at Leeds.

I'm also thinking Shaun Wane. I know people thought Wigan were boring under him but his record is pretty good - and what he is, arguably, is what we need for a young squad. He has faith in young lads but he's also disciplinarian and structured.

Ryan Carr is the other one who had a really good rep while he was here, spend a little time at Leeds before heading out down under again, never heard a bad word said about him but don't know if he'd come.

Interesting times anyway.

Re: Rowley : Tue May 14, 2024 10:37 am  

From the outside looking in, the number of ex-players in administrative and coaching roles at Leeds looks questionable. Are these people in place on merit other than distant achievements on the playing field? I guess it is common at a lot of SL clubs.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 14, 2024 2:44 pm  

Clearly poor recollection on my part, maybe because of the Great Britain tour.

My point still stands that even the top coaches do not guarantee success.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 14, 2024 5:31 pm  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

Clearly poor recollection on my part, maybe because of the Great Britain tour.

My point still stands that even the top coaches do not guarantee success.

Nothing guarantees success, having a decent coach increases the chances of success.

Having a poor coach dramatically reduces your chances.

I know this is revolutionary stuff.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 14, 2024 6:32 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Nothing guarantees success, having a decent coach increases the chances of success.

Having a poor coach dramatically reduces your chances.

I know this is revolutionary stuff.

Agreed, and let’s not pretend there’s not an element of luck involved. RS had a similar pedigree to Woolf and Holbrook, who came over and were brilliant. Wire took a huge gamble in appointing Sam Burgess who doesn’t have a fraction of RS’s coaching experience.

I’m not saying Wire will win the comp, but I know who I’d rather have in charge right now.

RS was always a hugely risky move. Time for GH to come out and admit this punt has worked out and move on asap. I still think a decent coach could get a lot out of this squad.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 14, 2024 8:37 pm  

Sam B will most likely just bide his time before going back to Aus I think. Also he's a petulant fella when he wants to be, he needs to grow up a bit to be a head coach frankly.

What he does do is inspire the team and clearly drills hard defence into them, as you would expect. You can at least see his influence on them.

Against us, Wire have been the best side I've seen this year so far, I thought they looked very good.

I still don't think the squad we have is quite there. We have work to do with a couple more key signings; coaching appointments will likely change at the end of the year in some form or another.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Wed May 15, 2024 7:57 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Some of the best GF winning Leeds teams have been underdogs - in 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012 etc - what's your point Flexwheeler? You do realise that good teams are not always expected to win, right?

The revisionism on this forum in the last few weeks really has been epic. We've been hearing that Furner would have been a better coach than Smith if only JJB hadn't complained and got GH and Sinfield to cut short his tenure, and now being an underdog is a sign of a team playing poorly. Jesus wept.

I'll raise your epic and put down irrelevant the current team is not remotely close to the above mentioned title winning teams. My question to the more knowledgeable attendees on here is who/when/and how are we going to challenge for silverware?

Re: Smith out ASAP : Wed May 15, 2024 8:14 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

The Momster will come good. It was a shame Lumb got injured so soon as it seemed they had the makings of a decent combination. I like Roberts but he doesn't seem to be a natural winger.

The Momster you're having a laugh I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil copy and paste the earth shattering wrecking ball Fusitua un interested journey men living of performances playing in quality teams, their not now and have been found out like it or not the proof is reality former Dudd latter looking the former!

Re: Smith out ASAP : Wed May 15, 2024 8:36 pm  

RAPIDO wrote:

The Momster you're having a laugh I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil copy and paste the earth shattering wrecking ball Fusitua un interested journey men living of performances playing in quality teams, their not now and have been found out like it or not the proof is reality former Dudd latter looking the former!

Eh?