Re: Team of the Millenium : Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:39 pm  

Buderus was a better player than Diskin.

Diskin did far more for Leeds than Buderus did.

Therefore Diskin for me.

In much the same way as I would pick Sinfield in a best Leeds team of my lifetime ahead of Hanley, despite Hanley being the best British player I've ever seen. Hanley's best years were elsewhere, and his achievements at Leeds are dwarfed by Sinfield's.

Likewise, as much as I rated Buderus, Diskin won 4 Grand Finals with Leeds (scoring our first try in two of them) and won a Harry Sunderland trophy and was player of the season in probably our best season of this era.

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:54 pm  

That's excellent logic and the Sinfield/Hanley comparison is a perfect illustration.

Get you clever clogs.

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:55 pm  

Surprised no one has opted for Brett Mullins, Joe Vickery, Ben Cross, Chris Feather, Mark O'Neill, David Barnhill, Ben Walker and Nathan McAvoy......nailed on surely?

Peacock wishes he was half the player Ben Cross was

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:38 pm  

G1 wrote:

That's excellent logic and the Sinfield/Hanley comparison is a perfect illustration.

Get you clever clogs.

I'd agree with the logic, but we all have our favourites, for example I'd be tempted to put ET in my "team of a lifetime" even though the logic would suggest Brent Webb.

Would you have Cliff Lyons in yours? Superb for Leeds, but over two short seasons and the best part of his career elsewhere, just as with Hanley and Buderus. All other criteria would suggest Danny McGuire is guaranteed a place miles ahead of him.

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:27 pm  

G1 wrote:

We really going to do this?

That is purely objective recollection. Yeah he wasn't quite as "sexy" or exotic as the Aussie captain but I can't help that other fans look at Antipodeans with googly eyes.

........no different to our esteemed coach then - with his repeated selection of Joe Vickery

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:40 pm  

G1 wrote:

We really going to do this?

You just need a slight correction to your formula.

Buderus LEEDS peak vs Diskin Leeds peak = Diskin win

I'm not judging it on anything Buderus did in his career elsewhere, solely his Leeds career.

People quickly forget how good Diskin was in that 2004 season, far better than Buderus was in his excellent 2010 season. Diskin was Leeds player of the year in a steamroller team that won the LLS and the GF. He went on to win the Harry Sunderland and gain deserved international recognition.

That is purely objective recollection. Yeah he wasn't quite as "sexy" or exotic as the Aussie captain but I can't help that other fans look at Antipodeans with googly eyes.

That's exactly what I said

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:19 am  

1st Team

Webb

Hall
Ablett
Senior
Donald

Burrow
McGuire

McDermott
Buderus
Peacock
JJB
Lauitiiti
Sinfield

Kylie
Adamson
Furner
Ellis

2nd Team

Mathers

Calderwood
Watkins
Toopi
Cummins

Dunneman
Harris

Bailey
Diskin
Fleary
Poaching
Kirke
Danny Ward

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:13 am  

If we extended this debate 'team of the SL era' would many other players get a look in apart from Harris and Morley? I can think of a few honourable mentions but i would say no.

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:38 am  

Brad Godden might get a look in. He was a superbly skillful centre, and any winger playing outside him looked good. *cough*Cummins*cough*

And in the pack, Mark Glanville was a great pack leader in Murray's brutal team.

Re: Team of the Millenium : Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:54 am  

I'm surprised that there hasn't been more mention of Dave Furner, one of the best back rowers we have seen at Leeds, certainly in this Millennium. If we are going back to the days of ET like some have suggested you can't fail to mention Eric Grothe, completely under utilised by the coach of the day but one of the best wingers ever to put on a Leeds shirt. I know this will spark debate over some older wingers eg. Alan Smith but still Grothe by a mile for me