Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:40 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

It is not as important as not finishing in the bottom four though. Playing in that middle 8's will probably see a 6000 reduction on our home crowds for that period compared to playing the top teams. You are looking at £300k plus compared to the top 8's, plus loss of corporates and merchandise. We simply are not going to win a trophy with this squad it is a moot point to compare, but vitally important is not the embarrassment.

Surely you don't think winning a cup round is any way more of a confidence booster than winning regular rounds at the moment?

I take your point about the loss of income, but to say this squad is not capable of winning the cup if they get past Hudds. is ridiculous imo.SL has no great team in it right now and with the likes of McGuire,Ward,Cuthbertson,Hall,Briscoe,Moon back we still have as good a team as any, certainly capable of winning 2 more games against anyone on a given day, which is what the cup is all about, and getting to Wembley.

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:34 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I take your point about the loss of income, but to say this squad is not capable of winning the cup if they get past Hudds. is ridiculous imo.SL has no great team in it right now and with the likes of McGuire,Ward,Cuthbertson,Hall,Briscoe,Moon back we still have as good a team as any, certainly capable of winning 2 more games against anyone on a given day, which is what the cup is all about, and getting to Wembley.

I don't hold your optimism. I said before the season when it got to the big games we would fail, as we have nothing in it to manage what is required. The injuries are irrelevant to that, as the big games are what matter. It is not so ridiculous at all, especially now we are actually seeing a bit of proof in the pudding. We need to ensure we are not embarrassed, rather than putting all our eggs in one basket in hope. Finishing bottom four is a disaster for this club. Get the points while we can, and Huddersfield away is what matters. Like I said, for me, with both poor teams, whoever wins the league match will also win the cup match IMO.

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:07 pm  

I don't agree we should choose either Cup or League. We should be going to win every game now on in to build momentum and form. When the injured return they will be fresh and they should inject energy at a time when other sides may be losing theirs.

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:40 pm  

Yep a good cup run is all we have left. We won't make the top 4, so the top 8 is a waste of time. Likewise, we won't be in the million pound game, so forget the league and let's get back to Wembley

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:03 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

It is not as important as not finishing in the bottom four though. Playing in that middle 8's will probably see a 6000 reduction on our home crowds for that period compared to playing the top teams. You are looking at £300k plus compared to the top 8's, plus loss of corporates and merchandise. We simply are not going to win a trophy with this squad it is a moot point to compare, but vitally important is not the embarrassment.

Surely you don't think winning a cup round is any way more of a confidence booster than winning regular rounds at the moment?

I'd say beating a SL team in any competition is pretty much the same confidence-wise. That's why I want us to perform in the cup and play well. It isn't a case of you can just decide which games you're going to play and which you're not. If you go into the cup game with that attitude it can have a negative effect on the following SL game.

Perform well in the cup game we'll do ok in the league game following it, which is the priority.

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:33 pm  

Him wrote:

I'd say beating a SL team in any competition is pretty much the same confidence-wise. That's why I want us to perform in the cup and play well. It isn't a case of you can just decide which games you're going to play and which you're not. If you go into the cup game with that attitude it can have a negative effect on the following SL game.

Perform well in the cup game we'll do ok in the league game following it, which is the priority.

Actually it is a case of that, as the question asked was which would you rather win, which by definition is pick and choose.

As the super league game comes first doesn't that completely flip your point on its head?

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:46 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Actually it is a case of that, as the question asked was which would you rather win, which by definition is pick and choose.

As the super league game comes first doesn't that completely flip your point on its head?

Ah, I see we've got our wires crossed a bit here, I was meaning really that I don't want us to sack off the cup game as I think doing that has a negative effect on the game after it. Having re-read the OP I can see how my first post was confusing now as if I had to choose I'd choose the 2 points in the league. Just that we can't afford to be "weak" in the cup game.

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:48 pm  

I think the notion that Leeds are the only team suffering injuries is a fallacy - look at Wigan the other night they were missing:

Tomkins x 2, Manfredi, Williams, McIlorum. O'laughlin, Farrell - that is half a side of key players

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:32 pm  

I think it will be "break".

Re: Make or break fortnight. : Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:51 pm  

We'll probably do a HKR circa 2015....with similar results