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Thomas Minns : Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:55 am  
Yet another RL player admits taking drugs - what is it with these players - are they so uneducated that cannot comprehend the consequences of what they are doing?

A tragedy for the player and yet another blight on the sport at the elite level - how is the game expected to attract quality corporate sponsors when its elite players are so flagrantly abuse drugs.
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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:40 am  
Caught taking non performance enhancing drugs on Mother’s Day a year on from when his mother died.
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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:47 am  
Does he hang out with Hardaker by any chance?
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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:13 am  
Minns has been a good player for us and seems a likeable lad.Think he was at your place as a youngster then Fev?Seems to be a bit delicate mentally after his loss last year? Said on our page can understand the fans who say ban him but loss of parent is a major thing and everyone handles grief differently.Just a sad situation albeit of his own making
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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:36 am  
I said this on the VT but I tend to agree with Sal Paradise somewhat. Whilst I'm all for personal responsibility, how many more headlines like this do we need before the clubs and the governing body get to grips with an issue that seems to be much more rife in our sport than it is in others? We don't see reports of players from other sports taking (or being caught taking) recreational substances with anywhere near the regularity that we seemingly see in RL

If it's simply an issue of the players not thinking that they'll get caught, then we need more frequent and rigorous testing but in fairness to the RFL, we seem to be held in high regard by the relevant authorities on that front.

If it's an issue of education, it's in the interests of the clubs and the sport to grasp the nettle on this and get to the root of why our players are struggling to understand that they can't do this, or that they need to be more careful about who they associate with.

If it's a mental health issue (as Minns seems to claim, and I'm not going to refute that), then there is also a duty of care / vested interest for the clubs in better intervention. We heard a lot about the State of Mind campaign following the death of Terry Newton - that seems to have disappeared without a trace.

If it's a case that the players are just that determined to enjoy something that they shouldn't be enjoying, then the sport and clubs need to distance themselves from these people (because you can bet your life that sponsors will).

Yes, there are costs to all of this. But I'd argue that the costs of not doing it are probably outweighing the costs of more proactive measures to make sure that our players are making the right decisions.
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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:11 am  
Difficult to know whether there have been lots of people caught because it's rife in the sport, or because the RFL takes a harder stance on testing than other sports.
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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:16 am  
it used to be the Monday Clubs that was being called bad publicity
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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:37 am  
The Eagle wrote:
Difficult to know whether there have been lots of people caught because it's rife in the sport, or because the RFL takes a harder stance on testing than other sports.


That is clearly the more realistic statement.
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Re: Thomas Minns : Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:54 am  
Happy enough for a debate / conversation to be held on this subject, but please can we keep any accusations and potential libellous comments to ourselves please.

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Re: Thomas Mims : Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:54 pm  
The Eagle wrote:
Difficult to know whether there have been lots of people caught because it's rife in the sport, or because the RFL takes a harder stance on testing than other sports.


If that is the case then great, but in that case the RFL really need to "own" that narrative in order to prevent the game's reputation from being dragged further through the mud.
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