Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:20 am  

better leeds sides might have lost at rovers before but never in such gutless fashion.
nothing was learned by the insipid non aggressive game at cas, who were truly awful, or the cats game where we won it due to the age old way of aggressive forwards getting on top.
smith, as I said before, seems to want to prove how clever he is by doing things differently.
Well it doesn't work. it won't work.
and if he doesn't change then he won't be here long

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:21 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

*After every defeat* “it’s not season defining for us”.

It’s not the defeat in isolation, it’s as a collective. This and cas are season defining. It’s defines our season as sh*t.

No it doesn’t.

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 am  

What an utter shambles, at the risk of stating the blindingly obvious the match was lost with the rovers try just after half time. Without doubt a pathetic and easily preventable try. It gave us a mountain to climb ,at the moment we aren’t capable of achieving that. Not certain what to make of this current team and coach and I have followed Leeds for a long time. Don’t believe we should get rid of smith but unless things change we may not win many away games. Felt sorry for the young full back chucked in at the deep end (no pun intended) Myler without doubt would have dealt with the high kicks.
As previously stated we have lost at rovers before but it’s the manner of defeat that’s hard to take. This team seems mentally fragile ,last night’s game was similar to the cas game conducted in front of a hostile crowd. We just seem unable to cope with the pressure. I honestly thought we would win last night and start a decent run of games. Sadly it seems we are taking one step forward and two back. Full credit to rovers they deserved to win fo for me it’s not sour grapes. But once again the referee was woeful, all night he allowed rovers defenders to grapple at the play the ball.
Next game up ,the giants are a well coached and competent side, so it’s a big challenge . I really haven’t a clue as to how we will perform in this match. Never a dull moment following Leeds is it?

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:38 am  

The Giants are the dullest team to watch in the league, I’m glad we don’t play that style of rugby.

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:44 am  

christopher wrote:

The Giants are the dullest team to watch in the league, I’m glad we don’t play that style of rugby.

You may be right, unfortunately most of the season so far so far we haven’t had much of any style of rugby.

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:45 am  

We live or die on whether we can play quickly under Smith. I think there was a plan b for last night's conditions but woefully executed by O'Connor and his middles. In their defence I don't get the impression much coaching time will have gone into it. Which is fine in a way: we don't see too many monsoons. What we do see however is plenty of teams slowing play by other means. If we can create high a tempo, we're laughing. If not, it's wheldon road groundhog Day.

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:07 am  

tad rhino wrote:

better leeds sides might have lost at rovers before but never in such gutless fashion.
nothing was learned by the insipid non aggressive game at cas, who were truly awful, or the cats game where we won it due to the age old way of aggressive forwards getting on top.
smith, as I said before, seems to want to prove how clever he is by doing things differently.
Well it doesn't work. it won't work.
and if he doesn't change then he won't be here long

You’re saying Rohan is the Liz Truss of coaching?

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:15 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

What an utter shambles, at the risk of stating the blindingly obvious the match was lost with the rovers try just after half time. Without doubt a pathetic and easily preventable try. It gave us a mountain to climb ,at the moment we aren’t capable of achieving that. Not certain what to make of this current team and coach and I have followed Leeds for a long time. Don’t believe we should get rid of smith but unless things change we may not win many away games. Felt sorry for the young full back chucked in at the deep end (no pun intended) Myler without doubt would have dealt with the high kicks.
As previously stated we have lost at rovers before but it’s the manner of defeat that’s hard to take. This team seems mentally fragile ,last night’s game was similar to the cas game conducted in front of a hostile crowd. We just seem unable to cope with the pressure. I honestly thought we would win last night and start a decent run of games. Sadly it seems we are taking one step forward and two back. Full credit to rovers they deserved to win fo for me it’s not sour grapes. But once again the referee was woeful, all night he allowed rovers defenders to grapple at the play the ball.
Next game up ,the giants are a well coached and competent side, so it’s a big challenge . I really haven’t a clue as to how we will perform in this match. Never a dull moment following Leeds is it?

Good summary.
We seem to start every game like a friendly.
Not one Ptb anywhere near their line in first half. And that abysmal try from kick off second half. Game lost. Total waste of time. Did not throw a punch. Any weak team can start playing when the game is lost.
Conditions were horrific but we did not kick high in second half.
Smith must carry some blame for the back three being not good enough because he signed them all. Anyone could have dropped the ball but those 3 did not look like they wanted to be there.
In last 10-15 minutes we had a few scrums and just walked there, no urgency to pack down and stop the clock. This team needs a leader who can rattle a few cages.

Frankly, not sure I’ll buy another away ticket this season. Last night cost me about £80 and just made me angry.

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:25 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

You’re saying Rohan is the Liz Truss of coaching?

Yeah because Liz Truss did the equivalent of getting us to a GF didn’t she

It was a torrid game, a rubbish performance in horrendous weather - I bet it will be forgotten in a couple of months time.

It might even be forgotten in a weeks time.

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:25 am  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

Hard to look anywhere else than the combination of our back 3 and pathetic line speed, but thought Bentley was absolutely awful, braindead play after braindead play yet again, really hope we dont retain him, McDonnell can be the same player without the liability side of it.

McDonnell is that JJB/Delaney role player where he just quietly gets where it hurts and fills gaps in. Bentley is a good player but overrated IMO.

I prefer Tet in the back row, especially now Mik is back. We have Mik, Holroyd, Sangare, Lisone and Walters on rotation. Martin to centre and Tet to back row works better for me.

Tindall played well in pre-season, he’s quicker than Olpherts and although he has mistakes in him too he looks more like a rugby league player.

Maybe with Fus out it’s time to bring in Lumb or Edgell from the academy, and Tindall recalled?

Letting Edwards go and bringing in Olpherts on I guess more money doesn’t seem sensible.

At least Sangare, McDonnell and McDonnell look decent additions.

On another note I am sick of the prima donna behaviour of Newman, Austin, Bentley. Leeds have had better players than any of them who also had discipline. Arguing with refs constantly is just a sign of an idiot.