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Re: Fax Today at York
Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:25 pm
Posted by Beaujangles on Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:25 pm
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Just read Marshall's post match speil.Basically he's no idea why it went wrong and has no answers.Really is time for a change.
Re: Fax Today at York
Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:50 pm
Posted by faxcar on Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:50 pm
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ricardo07 wrote:
I was there as a neutral yesterday.

The biggest difference in my opinion was that York ran on to the ball at pace.

Halifax on the other hand were completely static when they received the ball. They certainly need to think and act quicker.

I would be concerned at the lack of pace yesterday and how easily the York forwards especially Teanby dominated the game.

Your half backs were totally outplayed by Robinson and Cockayne yesterday.

Exactly ricardo and if it’s obvious to us and a neutral spectator what’s wrong but not to the coach I really do start to worry and despair.
I’ve said it time and time again about our pack, the second row usually put in a good shift.
The front row make no impact and yesterday we had the 2 starting props and 3 more on the bench.
Against Swinton it was only when it became desperado time and Simon Grix started to run the ball in hard in the last 10 minutes as a prop / forward should do that Fax got anything from the game.
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Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:21 pm
Posted by Waddy-Fax on Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:21 pm
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Things I noticed yesterday.

1. Our passing is still poor and so slow, player has to either stop, jump or twist backwards to catch it.
2. No player seems to catch the ball running onto it.
3. We let teams up at the play the ball too quick.
4. We have 2 halfbacks who don't run.
5. A former winger outplayed our halfbacks.
6. Forwards just no oomph at all.
7. We get out enthused at everything.
8. Doesn't seem to be players running at angles giving the ball carrier options. When York had the ball there was players everywhere running giving the ball carrier options.
9. We are so predictable in attack. One up rugby or scoot or at best ball passed down the line with no 2nd phase coming in or creating options and hesitation in the defence.
10. We still think a 5 minute one man run-around is a good tactic, last seen in the 90's in the Workshops competition.
11. Maybe the advantages of Murrell don't outweigh the disadvantages now.
12. The pies were decent!
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Re: Fax Today at York
Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:03 pm
Posted by Greg Florimos Boots on Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:03 pm
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Waddy-Fax wrote:
Things I noticed yesterday.

1. Our passing is still poor and so slow, player has to either stop, jump or twist backwards to catch it.
Never been addressed while Marshall has been in charge despite opportunities to sign AOB, Craven, and even Sammut who all have much better distribution than the players we currently have.
2. No player seems to catch the ball running onto it.
Back to point number 1.
3. We let teams up at the play the ball too quick.
Our pack is simply getting dominated at the moment which given the size of some of them is quite frankly very poor.
4. We have 2 halfbacks who don't run.
Craven or Sammut would probably have worked well with Murrell and no disrespect to Johnston but both those players are on a different level.
5. A former winger outplayed our halfbacks.
Along with a player who Marshall chose to get rid of in favour of our current 6 and 7.
6. Forwards just no oomph at all.
No urgency through the team to be honest and cracks started to appear with quite a bit of arguing going on between the players.
7. We get out enthused at everything.
Back to point 6.
8. Doesn't seem to be players running at angles giving the ball carrier options. When York had the ball there was players everywhere running giving the ball carrier options.
Lets face it, our attack under Marshall, for want of a better word, has been crap. Same moves and slow and laboured.
9. We are so predictable in attack. One up rugby or scoot or at best ball passed down the line with no 2nd phase coming in or creating options and hesitation in the defence.
As above its really not that great to watch dull and boring predictable rugby.
10. We still think a 5 minute one man run-around is a good tactic, last seen in the 90's in the Workshops competition.
When we see the full back set off it has been timed that there is normally time to set off to get a cuppa and be back from the hot dog stand in time to see the conclusion of the move.
11. Maybe the advantages of Murrell don't outweigh the disadvantages now.
I still feel he is our best hope as in 3 years other than Grix there has been nobody else stepping up to take the team around the pitch. I feel bad that despite been rated so highly by his team mates and other players he has not had the quality half back partner that could have taken us up a notch.
12. The pies were decent!
Beer was cold as well.


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Re: Fax Today at York
Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:04 pm
Posted by fax_insider on Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:04 pm
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I wasn’t there yesterday so cannot comment too much on the game although by the highlights some of the tries conceded looked woeful.

One massive thing that no one seems to be mentioning which is definitely contributing to our downfall - fitness.

We look unfit in all areas - cardvascular and muscular.

People talk of a high penalty count against us each game... why is that? Because we cannot get back onside, we’re losing the ruck, we’re tired and making mistakes.

We completed our sets well against Dewsbury which meant ultimately didn’t defend as much. Therefore masks the real problem.

The first season we had Andy Hollyhead (conditioner) we looked fit from the off.

Every season since that, we have got better as the season goes on... as we have got fitter.

Just a point, probably too late to start doing Shibden hills on a Tuesday evening now but I bet it would make a huge difference if we were fitter.
Re: Fax Today at York
Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:18 pm
Posted by jbyck on Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:18 pm
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Thought York played well, as they have all season beating Leigh at home and Bradford away most people thought they were going to be easy beats.
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Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:46 pm
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jbyck wrote:
Thought York played well, as they have all season beating Leigh at home and Bradford away most people thought they were going to be easy beats.


You are right they played well and we have no devine right to win every game but given last season I would at least expect us to be competing with both York and Fev and not scraping home against two poor teams in Batley and Swinton.

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Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:03 am
Posted by SingaporeFax on Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:03 am
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Mr Dog wrote:
You' best get in touch with The RFL then, as you're only allowed a maximum of 5 :?


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Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:14 am
Posted by the fax in asia on Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:14 am
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SingaporeFax , might be the case of the Giants and Cas lads being a season long loan, still taking the P1 $$ you name 8 there, 67% of the mach day squad not signed to the club.
Until the RFL grow a pair and sort D/R out and letting some chairmen and clubs run (ruin) the game that is life as we know it, seems either join in or get left behind.
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Re: Fax Today at York
Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:26 am
Posted by griff1998 on Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:26 am
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the fax in asia wrote:
Until the RFL grow a pair and sort D/R out and letting some chairmen and clubs run (ruin) the game that is life as we know it, seems either join in or get left behind.


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