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Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:33 am  
Thank God for the House of Lords
Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:33 am  

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Just stopped us going one step further from being a completely facist country.
Profit over Lives - The Tory way
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:16 pm  
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords
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Willzay wrote:
Just stopped us going one step further from being a completely facist country.

It's a paradox isn't it - the unelected, undemocratic House stopping the directly-elected one from imposing grotesque changes to our civil liberties.

Neither are the answer. The HoL should be abolished (I'd replace it with a directly-elected, proportional representation Senate with no stated party affiliations, no whips offices, six year terms, with you capped at serving two terms. Elect a third of them every two years).
But also our rights should be properly enshrined constitutionally, in law rather than at risk of the whim of every wannabe neofascist who inhabits the Home Office and finds people protesting a bit uncomfortable.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:33 pm  
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Willzay wrote:
Just stopped us going one step further from being a completely facist country.

Spot on London gets every thing, rest of country gets nothing There sending us back to the Charles Dickens day's .Our government have condemned countries for doing what they are doing to most of this country
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:34 pm  
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Willzay wrote:
Just stopped us going one step further from being a completely facist country.

Spot on London gets every thing, rest of country gets nothing There sending us back to the Charles Dickens day's .Our government have condemned countries for doing what they are doing to most of this country
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:59 pm  
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Wait until the Royal Navy are instructed to sink boats crossing The Channel, Great Party, great leader :SHOOT:
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:23 pm  
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Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:23 pm  

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What's this about?
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:59 pm  
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Jack Burton wrote:
What's this about?

This is the great tragedy. The distractions with parties and pandemic and culture war stuff means so little coverage is given to the really important long - lasting policy decisions this corrupt bunch are trying to push through.

This was one of the most insidious pieces of legislation proposed in a long time, alongside its brother the voter suppression bill which we are also now reliant on the Lords for protection from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60032465

If anyone gets upset at people describing the Tories as scum just work through with them the details of these two disgusting pieces of proposed legislation.
Jack Burton wrote:
What's this about?

This is the great tragedy. The distractions with parties and pandemic and culture war stuff means so little coverage is given to the really important long - lasting policy decisions this corrupt bunch are trying to push through.

This was one of the most insidious pieces of legislation proposed in a long time, alongside its brother the voter suppression bill which we are also now reliant on the Lords for protection from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60032465

If anyone gets upset at people describing the Tories as scum just work through with them the details of these two disgusting pieces of proposed legislation.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Re: Thank God for the House of Lords Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:31 pm  
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The Ghost of '99 wrote:
It's a paradox isn't it - the unelected, undemocratic House stopping the directly-elected one from imposing grotesque changes to our civil liberties.

Neither are the answer. The HoL should be abolished (I'd replace it with a directly-elected, proportional representation Senate with no stated party affiliations, no whips offices, six year terms, with you capped at serving two terms. Elect a third of them every two years).
But also our rights should be properly enshrined constitutionally, in law rather than at risk of the whim of every wannabe neofascist who inhabits the Home Office and finds people protesting a bit uncomfortable.


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