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Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:36 am  

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So twice now they voted against a pay rise for NHS workers. Won’t give assurances that NHS staff get free parking. Failed to deliver adequate PPE and lockdown rules as quickly as they could’ve done.

Now this:
“MPs have voted against New Clause 17, with 340 votes to 251.

The New Clause intended to protect the NHS and publicly funded health and care services in other parts of the UK from any form of control from outside the UK.“

Essentially refusing to rule out the sale of the NHS.
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Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:21 am  
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You know certain posters will come back pointing out today's pay rises, but they'll also fail to mention they are out of existing budgets. The cynic in me says the pay rises are to soften the blow of voting against New Clause 17.
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Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:17 am  

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Willzay wrote:
So twice now they voted against a pay rise for NHS workers. Won’t give assurances that NHS staff get free parking. Failed to deliver adequate PPE and lockdown rules as quickly as they could’ve done.

Now this:
“MPs have voted against New Clause 17, with 340 votes to 251.

The New Clause intended to protect the NHS and publicly funded health and care services in other parts of the UK from any form of control from outside the UK.“

Essentially refusing to rule out the sale of the NHS.


Get a grip - do you honestly think any right minded commercial enterprise would want to take on the NHS? If a specialist firm was set up only do stents - they could perform them as well as the NHS but cheaper would it be huge issue for the NHS to outsource this clinical work?

The one thing that was protected during the height of Covid was the NHS - they built these Nightingale wards that never got used which suggests the NHS coped pretty well. Have the government not just given the NHS works a well above inflation increase?
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Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:33 am  
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It’s not access to procedures the US wants initially but to have their drug companies to be able to charge their rates rather than the lower figures negotiated by the NHS bulk purchase. This is not to say that they will not at a later date look to add their way with regards private medical insurance.
The vote also questions why the government suggested that the document obtained by Labour was incorrect when this clearly opens the door to outside influence. This is obviously a pattern deny it and then vote to allow it like they also did with regards US food standards.
The headline I guess is “Boris Lied Shock”.
Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:19 pm  

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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
It’s not access to procedures the US wants initially but to have their drug companies to be able to charge their rates rather than the lower figures negotiated by the NHS bulk purchase. This is not to say that they will not at a later date look to add their way with regards private medical insurance.
The vote also questions why the government suggested that the document obtained by Labour was incorrect when this clearly opens the door to outside influence. This is obviously a pattern deny it and then vote to allow it like they also did with regards US food standards.
The headline I guess is “Boris Lied Shock”.



Paying higher pharama costs isn't the same thing as selling off the NHS as Corbyn was shown when he had his ridiculous press conference the day after Neil mauled him.

The document showed nothing of the kind - private medical work is legal and is undertaken by a host of British companies - it takes the pressure off the NHS - no bad thing?

The headline is "don't make a mountain out of a mole hill"
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Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:10 pm  
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At least he allowed Neil to interview him rather than dodging all attempts and finally hiding in a fridge. Why block a guarantee of no interference if as they said that no part of the NHS is for sale. I suppose you realise that drugs from America are more costly than those negotiated by the NHS therefore increasing the costs substantially. The next will be that we can no longer afford the NHS in its current form etc.
Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:01 pm  

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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
At least he allowed Neil to interview him rather than dodging all attempts and finally hiding in a fridge. Why block a guarantee of no interference if as they said that no part of the NHS is for sale. I suppose you realise that drugs from America are more costly than those negotiated by the NHS therefore increasing the costs substantially. The next will be that we can no longer afford the NHS in its current form etc.


That worked out well didn't it ?
He all but handed the keys of No 10 to Boris after that utterly disastrous interview,Corbyn would have served the Labour cause better if he had hidden in a fridge!!
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Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:15 pm  
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No it would have been better for the many excess deaths if they had shut the door on Johnson.
Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:13 pm  

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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
No it would have been better for the many excess deaths if they had shut the door on Johnson.


Not sure i would condone deliberately suffocating anybody!!!
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Just accept the truth,the country preferred a man in a fridge to Corbyn and the Labour party,the fridge could have given a better interview than Corbyn!!
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Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:33 pm  

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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
No it would have been better for the many excess deaths if they had shut the door on Johnson.

And you, of course, have evidence that a SINGLE death can be attributed to Boris... no, of course you don't, you are typical of all the left wing stagers on here, full of hate and envy of ANYTHING remotely other than rampant socialism.
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