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Re: Homelessness
Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:05 pm
Posted by wrencat1873 on Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:05 pm
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IR80 wrote:
no, nor a street drinker, my experience very much opened my eyes to some people's reality of homelessness.


Without wanting to know your situation, how long ago was this and do you think that it is easier to engage with services now as opposed to 10 years ago ?
Re: Homelessness
Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:16 pm
Posted by IR80 on Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:16 pm
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wrencat1873 wrote:
Without wanting to know your situation, how long ago was this and do you think that it is easier to engage with services now as opposed to 10 years ago ?

it was very recent, the only issue I had engaging with services was having to travel to the Housing Options office in the LA of the property I was unlawfully evicted from, why you need a "local connection" is unclear, I guess maybe to stop "homeless tourism", my biggest observation would be the ancillary support that isn't available, but that has been an issue through many governments of all persuasions.
Re: Homelessness
Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:20 pm
Posted by tigertot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:20 pm
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IR80 wrote:
no, nor a street drinker, my experience very much opened my eyes to some people's reality of homelessness.

Therefore you are not able to judge the quality of decisions those poor sods have to make. It has been shown that the same people, within a relatively short space of time, are simply not able to think as creatively or intelligently if they become addicted (no real surprise) or, maybe more surprisingly, poor.
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Re: Homelessness
Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:29 pm
Posted by IR80 on Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:29 pm
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tigertot wrote:
Therefore you are not able to judge the quality of decisions those poor sods have to make. It has been shown that the same people, within a relatively short space of time, are simply not able to think as creatively or intelligently if they become addicted (no real surprise) or, maybe more surprisingly, poor.

a much more informed position than many though..would you not agree?
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:01 pm
Posted by tigertot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:01 pm
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IR80 wrote:
a much more informed position than many though..would you not agree?

It is interesting, but simply stating that homeless choose that option & the support is there is wrong.
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:33 pm
Posted by IR80 on Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:33 pm
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tigertot wrote:
It is interesting, but simply stating that homeless choose that option & the support is there is wrong.

I didn't say all, and there are many contributing factors, have you spent any time talking to homeless people, understanding just why some of them are on the streets?

No, you get your "facts" from The Mirror & Daily Star
Re: Homelessness
Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:31 pm
Posted by tigertot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:31 pm
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IR80 wrote:
They don't want to do it, it is the INDIVIDUAL that choses to be homeless. The support IS there.

IR80 wrote:
I didn't say all
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No, you get your "facts" from The Mirror & Daily Star

Which of my facts are incorrect?
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:42 pm
Posted by IR80 on Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:42 pm
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tigertot wrote:
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Which of my facts are incorrect?

the fact you read things as you want them to be, for a start.
Re: Homelessness
Post Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:54 pm
Posted by tigertot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:54 pm
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IR80 wrote:
the fact you read things as you want them to be, for a start.

Surely that's your fact rather than mine...... :D
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