Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:20 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Scrapping Tuition Fees - correcting a historical wrong that the Fib Dems helped to shepherd through, despite promising not to
Nationalise Water Industries - cost neutral
Increase Income Tax - for only the very top earners
More Free Childcare - to enable more people (particularly women) to return to work
10,000 new Police Officers - replacing the savage Tory cuts that even Hunt has admitted went too far
3,000 new Firefighters - see above
Reverse Privatisation of Royal Mail - it was a scam in the first place, and sold for way below the actual value

but they are manifesto stuff, there don't seem to be many actual policy details

so TAX and SPEND

Entirely idealogical, uncosted, all ready to empty the coffers again.

All of those things were manifesto commitments, and that manifesto has been independently adjudged to have been properly costed; and polling suggests that the majority of the public are supportive of the big ticket items, particularly renationalising the essential services that are now run primarily to enrich share holders.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with the politics of envy - and everything to do with the politics of fairness; unfettered capitalism is a failure - we need something new.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:11 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Old school Socialists STILL blaming the greatest leader the country has ever seen.

INNNCCOOOMMMIIINNNNGGGGG

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:06 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Old school Socialists STILL blaming the greatest leader the country has ever seen.

And there you go, the average English guy to whom I was referring.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:59 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Old school Socialists STILL blaming the greatest leader the country has ever seen.

Let's have a sweepstake, how long will Standee last this time?

Thirty nine days is my bid.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:29 am  

Sandro II Terrorista wrote:

Let's have a sweepstake, how long will Standee last this time?

Aye, the pervading smell of rotting fish that was latterly MGarbutt returns. Same Mail/Sun headlines, still not a shred of credible evidence to support his bile.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:04 pm  

And now BoJo says he's prepared to increase public spending. I'm sure the Daily Mailers will be outraged.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:14 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

And now BoJo says he's prepared to increase public spending

..........while cutting taxation.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:17 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

And now BoJo says he's prepared to increase public spending. I'm sure the Daily Mailers will be outraged.

You have to remember that Bojo loves a false promise.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:29 pm  

Four months to go, although only 3 months and 1 week after the new leader of the Conservatives is chosen.

Not much of a much clearer idea of the final plan than on June 24, 2016.

Has any country ever focused so hard and for so long on one thing without even being able come up with a plan?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:47 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Four months to go, although only 3 months and 1 week after the new leader of the Conservatives is chosen.

Not much of a much clearer idea of the final plan than on June 24, 2016.

Has any country ever focused so hard and for so long on one thing without even being able come up with a plan?

It does make you smile when Boris (and Hunt) are promising so much, without the budgetary back up and still having the same 650 MP to try and manipulate to pass their version of Brexit and both of them actually think that they can negotiate something new by the end of October.