[Pumpetypump]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:19 pm  

Realistically, the best the LDs can aspire to be in the short to medium term is kingmakers along with the SNP. And if we believe their insistence that they would never get into bed with the Tories again, which would be an unforgivable act to me and many others after 2010, then that's a Labour Government given a functioning majority by a pact of LDs and SNPs. The condition of that support (I'd hope confidence and supply not coalition) would be a second referendum.

My worry is that the Labour polling suggests a possibly precarious majority even with all the pro European minority parties lending their support.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:14 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Realistically, the best the LDs can aspire to be in the short to medium term is kingmakers along with the SNP. And if we believe their insistence that they would never get into bed with the Tories again, which would be an unforgivable act to me and many others after 2010, then that's a Labour Government given a functioning majority by a pact of LDs and SNPs. The condition of that support (I'd hope confidence and supply not coalition) would be a second referendum.

My worry is that the Labour polling suggests a possibly precarious majority even with all the pro European minority parties lending their support.

If Labour and the Libdems were clever, they would drop a few candidates and ensure that the Tories/Brexit parties win fewer seats but, I think that Corbyn in particular and Swinson are both pretty stubborn and neither wants to be seen conceding ground to their "rival".
Hopefully, Farage and Boris are just as obstinate and the knock lumps out of each others vote share

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:38 pm  

Boris "chicken" Johnson failed to show for his own press conference in Luxembourg, hilarious.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:44 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Boris "chicken" Johnson failed to show for his own press conference in Luxembourg, hilarious.

Johnson the chicken liar that he is, was shown by Xavier Bettel just how a statesman should conduct himself.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:38 pm  

Wasn't a pre arranged press conference, but don't let facts worry you. I am sure the mighty Luxemboug would welcome you with open arms.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:03 pm  

bren2k wrote:

On that matter - I've yet to speak to a Leaver who could reasonably articulate which EU laws have negatively impacted them; can you?

Best of luck getting an answer to that one. Maybe he'll mention bananas if he's not found out it's not true yet.
The thing is these Brexiteers always bang on about stuff being "imposed by Brussels" as if the EU is one big blob who all think the same way and there is total lack of any British input into the key decisions. All untrue, of course, but nothing will be allowed to get in the way of this agenda, they're all in way too deep.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:14 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Wasn't a pre arranged press conference, but don't let facts worry you. I am sure the mighty Luxemboug would welcome you with open arms.

Of course it was pre-arranged. Do you think the stage, cameras, props and audience appeared from thin air?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:47 am  

IR80 wrote:

Wasn't a pre arranged press conference, but don't let facts worry you.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:47 am  

IR80 wrote:

Wasn't a pre arranged press conference, but don't let facts worry you. I am sure the mighty Luxemboug would welcome you with open arms.

Are you saying that those nasty EU politicians staged the event to make "chicken Johnson" look bad ?
I think he managed that all by himself.

Yet again he reverts to type, a few fancy one liners but no actual depth or substance.
He says "we are making great progress" but, EVERYONE else seems to be saying that "nothing has changed"

The right wing of the Tory Party want's "no deal" anyway so, he's probably not bothered.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:49 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

:lol:
Are you saying that those nasty EU politicians staged the event to make "chicken Johnson" look bad ?
I think he managed that all by himself.

Yet again he reverts to type, a few fancy one liners but no actual depth or substance.
He says "we are making great progress" but, EVERYONE else seems to be saying that "nothing has changed"

They moved it next to a protest. The LuxembougLoon had an agenda.