Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:55 pm  

Well having watched all events to date, NONE of the parties & MPs give a S**t about your vote out comes unless it matches their individual position of thought, they ALL are dis-in-genuine ! Even to the point of not recognizing your voting outcome what ever that outcome is !!!!!!
The one thing I have noticed is there is one person so knowledgeable and she is not selected or running. !!
She has a reputation of knowing all !!!
Who is it you may ask ??? Laura kuessnberg, NONE of the main parties like her & have complained about her !!!
She is however venomous in tone & always rounds off she knows better !!
Onwards & Upwards !!

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:50 pm  

TrinTrin wrote:

Well having watched all events to date, NONE of the parties & MPs give a S**t about your vote out comes unless it matches their individual position of thought, they ALL are dis-in-genuine !

It would be pretty spectacular if you found an MP who agreed with your perspective on every matter. We elect people to represent us, but if you're looking for outrage by reviewing each vote then yes you'll find plenty you don't agree with. That's how representative democracy works.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:26 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

My understanding would be:
Free trade no tariffs
No free movement
Protection for existing EU citizens in the UK and UK citizens in the EU
Remove ties to ECJ - ability to make our own laws
No financial contribution to the EU

That’s pretty much as I saw it, and as Jonny Average I presume most other voters saw it the same at the time
Struggling to see how we get to that position though, for all BoJo’s pomp his deal is weaker than that isn’t it

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:49 am  

ColD wrote:

That’s pretty much as I saw it, and as Jonny Average I presume most other voters saw it the same at the time
Struggling to see how we get to that position though, for all BoJo’s pomp his deal is weaker than that isn’t it

And Sal's dream of what Brexit should look like is just not possible, just like my hopes of scooping the Euromillions

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:36 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And Sal's dream of what Brexit should look like is just not possible, just like my hopes of scooping the Euromillions

Someone wins the Euromillions every week

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:23 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Someone wins the Euromillions every week

Yeah but, they're not great odds for securing the future of a whole nation.
I'm all for aiming high but, fantasy, is, well, fantasy.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:35 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Yeah but, they're not great odds for securing the future of a whole nation.
I'm all for aiming high but, fantasy, is, well, fantasy.

I agree and why would the EU give us all that - that is why no deal was the only realistic means of exit and then negotiate the best trade deal you could.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:05 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I agree and why would the EU give us all that - that is why no deal was the only realistic means of exit and then negotiate the best trade deal you could.

At the risk of going round in circles, how deep do you want the Brexit recession to be ?
We are hovering just above the line 0.3% growth in the last quarter, with negative growth in the previous one and with many businesses "pulling in their horns" right now and protecting their cash, the current quarter will do well to exceed the same period as last year.
Add to that the effects of even the smoothest Brexit and we go into negative growth and if there are some bumps in the road, which "no deal" will guarantee, we're back in the red and with both of the major parties threatening to spend big after the election, we could be heading for some "interesting" times.
If you're bored or interested, take a look at the real reason for Brexit
/ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/anti-tax-avoidance-package/anti-tax-avoidance-directive_en

Perhaps this is why the power brokers behind Brexit are so keen to get out and quick ?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:13 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

At the risk of going round in circles, how deep do you want the Brexit recession to be ?
We are hovering just above the line 0.3% growth in the last quarter, with negative growth in the previous one and with many businesses "pulling in their horns" right now and protecting their cash, the current quarter will do well to exceed the same period as last year.
Add to that the effects of even the smoothest Brexit and we go into negative growth and if there are some bumps in the road, which "no deal" will guarantee, we're back in the red and with both of the major parties threatening to spend big after the election, we could be heading for some "interesting" times.
If you're bored or interested, take a look at the real reason for Brexit
/ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/anti-tax-avoidance-package/anti-tax-avoidance-directive_en

Perhaps this is why the power brokers behind Brexit are so keen to get out and quick ?

Nobody actually know how bad this will be as it has never happened before and when have you seen an economic forecast that is spot on - I have yet to see one.

And being in the EU has hardly done Spain, Italy, Greece etc any favours.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:28 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

And being in the EU has hardly done Spain, Italy, Greece etc any favours.

Yet again you repeat this rubbish. They are all countries which have seen huge economic growth in international trade and in living standards and prosperity since joining the EU.

It's like climate change deniers conflating climate with the weather.