Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:51 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Stops being dictated to by a EU superstate.

Would you please define who these individuals are who the Daily Mail tells you we are being dictated by are? It's xenophobic nonsense.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:06 am  

tigertot wrote:

Would you please define who these individuals are who the Daily Mail tells you we are being dictated by are? It's xenophobic nonsense.

yawn, do you ever have an actual point?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:25 am  

Sal Paradise wrote: investing that money in our own infrastructure. New trains for the North, maybe? I won't hold my breath. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/northern-rail-confirms-future-plans-for-pacer-relics-as-just-one-in-two-trains-now-run-on-time-in-2019-low-1-10059423

Sal Paradise wrote: investing that money in our own infrastructure. New trains for the North, maybe? I won't hold my breath. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/northern-rail-confirms-future-plans-for-pacer-relics-as-just-one-in-two-trains-now-run-on-time-in-2019-low-1-10059423

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:26 am  

IR80 wrote:

yawn, do you ever have an actual point?

Not that you would be able to comprehend.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:27 am  

King Street Cat wrote: New trains for the North, maybe? I won't hold my breath. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/northern-rail-confirms-future-plans-for-pacer-relics-as-just-one-in-two-trains-now-run-on-time-in-2019-low-1-10059423 Trains, & Northern in particular, are Sal's specialist subject.

King Street Cat wrote: New trains for the North, maybe? I won't hold my breath. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/northern-rail-confirms-future-plans-for-pacer-relics-as-just-one-in-two-trains-now-run-on-time-in-2019-low-1-10059423 Trains, & Northern in particular, are Sal's specialist subject.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:46 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Trains, & Northern in particular, are Sal's specialist subject.

Maybe I am wrong but are Northern not waiting for the promised electrification of the lines as promised before the introduction of new trains - makes perfect sense to me?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:51 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Would you please define who these individuals are who the Daily Mail tells you we are being dictated by are? It's xenophobic nonsense.

The very same people that the Guardian tell you - I don't read the Mail prefer the Telegraph at least every word is not restricted to four letters.

Stevie Wonder can see where the EU is heading - the organisation is run by two unelected bodies: the Council and the Commission. The MEPs are a waste of space and money - 99% of people will not know who their MEP is. What do you actually think the goals of the big wigs in Brussels are?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:01 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Everyone knew we would be worse off in the short term it was a price to be paid for more control and not giving the EU net £9bn a year and investing that money in our own infrastructure.

If we "save" £9 billion a year in not having to hand this over to the EU every year, we should all be better off ??
Or, are you actually agreeing with those of us, who have been telling you for 2 1/2 years that, despite the apparent saving, we will still be worse off.

I'd love someone to define how long the "short term" actually is

It's actually a more binary issue better off or worse off and even you are now confirming that we will be worse off., post Brexit and for what ??

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:23 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

What do you actually think the goals of the big wigs in Brussels are?

You are ignoring the questions. you just repeat tired, xenophobic cliches. WHo are the Brussels bigwigs you refer to?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:29 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Maybe I am wrong but are Northern not waiting for the promised electrification of the lines as promised before the introduction of new trains - makes perfect sense to me?

No. Nothing to do with it. Read the link.

Northern blame industry-wide manufacturing problems for delays introducing new trains.

The firm’s promise comes after its punctuality record reached a new low for 2019 – just 53.5 per cent of trains now operate on time – as exasperated political leaders demand urgent action.

From Monday, October 21, we will have 29 of our 101 new trains in service for customers and a further 27 new trains are in final testing or being used for driver training.

My 40 years old Pacer train was late picking up this morning, & lost another 10 minutes on its 25 minute journey in to Leeds. I blame the Brussels bigwigs.