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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:56 am
Posted by Backwoodsman on Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:56 am
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I don’t think her offer to Corbyn is a trap, more of an act of desperation. If by some remote chance she can get any kind of concession from Corbyn a large section of the Tory party will vote against it. Which brings us back to the harsh fact that none of any proposed deal can win a majority vote. The deal breaker would be the EU last week making some concession on the Irish backstop. Obviously didn’t happen because they want us to remain in the EU.
Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:59 am
Posted by MGarbutt1986 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:59 am
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Backwoodsman wrote:
I don’t think her offer to Corbyn is a trap, more of an act of desperation. If by some remote chance she can get any kind of concession from Corbyn a large section of the Tory party will vote against it. Which brings us back to the harsh fact that none of any proposed deal can win a majority vote. The deal breaker would be the EU last week making some concession on the Irish backstop. Obviously didn’t happen because they want us to remain in the EU.

Our first negotiation point should have been "EU invoices are on hold until we get an acceptable deal"
Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:03 pm
Posted by bren2k on Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:03 pm
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MGarbutt1986 wrote:
Our first negotiation point should have been "EU invoices are on hold until we get an acceptable deal"


Yes, because nothing declares your intentions to the rest of the world markets as a reliable, honest trading partner, than reneging on legal obligations to your existing ones.
Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:12 pm
Posted by tigertot on Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:12 pm
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MGarbutt1986 wrote:
Our first negotiation point should have been "EU invoices are on hold until we get an acceptable deal"

You really should be a lawyer. You're wasted as a troll.
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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:43 pm
Posted by Sal Paradise on Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:43 pm
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MGarbutt1986 wrote:
Our first negotiation point should have been "EU invoices are on hold until we get an acceptable deal"


Really!!
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:56 pm
Posted by wrencat1873 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:56 pm
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Sal Paradise wrote:
I didn't ask whether the EU had negotiated a better deal than the UK I asked for an example of where the EU had used its size to negotiate a better deal than a smaller nation. The US is an example of where the EU falls down when negotiating trade deals. Do you honestly think the UK could not get the same/better deal in quicker time?


Sorry for not reading you post accurately. :oops:
As for the UK "out negotiating the EU", not a flippin' chance mate. Have you been asleep for the last 2+ years ?
They drew Mrs May into accepting the backstop, which has effectively prevented any agreement.

The EU work not as a free market, other than amongst it's members but, to "best" protect their own market.
Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:24 pm
Posted by MGarbutt1986 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:24 pm
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Sal Paradise wrote:
Really!!

Yes, in my opinion.
Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:25 pm
Posted by MGarbutt1986 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:25 pm
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tigertot wrote:
You really should be a lawyer. You're wasted as a troll.

I'm a troll because I don't agree with you?
Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:28 pm
Posted by tigertot on Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:28 pm
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MGarbutt1986 wrote:
I'm a troll because I don't agree with you?

No. It's because no-one can be a stupid as you purport to be.
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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3)
Post Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:33 pm
Posted by MGarbutt1986 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:33 pm
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tigertot wrote:
No. It's because no-one can be a stupid as you purport to be.

How am I stupid?

Insults again?
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