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Re: Donald Trump
Post Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:28 am
Posted by bren2k on Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:28 am
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The fact that his people are frantically deleting tweets that refer to immigrants as an "invasion" or "infestation" is perhaps the clearest admission of guilt from this administration to date.

There are almost no words for the awfulness of what has now become a regular occurrence in the US; and the intellectual gymnastics required to suggest that easy access to automatic weapons is not the main contributory factor, is excruciating to behold.

Thoughts and prayers my ar$e.
Re: Donald Trump
Post Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:26 pm
Posted by wotsupcas on Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:26 pm
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Yes, or the Wild West gun control the USA has, which is no control.

Sadly neither are likely as White Supremacists and the gun nuts the NRA are his core supporters.

So what the saintly Obama do about gun control then? Same as Trump - naff all.
Re: Donald Trump
Post Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:48 pm
Posted by My Mate Ronnie on Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:48 pm
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IR80 wrote:
I do think it is time you were banned, racism now, I thought you better than that.


tigertot wrote:
He has also always thought American wine better than French based on looks alone. He could be a Muslim wine taster.

IR80 what part of tigertots post do you deem as Racist ?

American isn’t a race , French isn’t a race and Muslim isn’t a race . ? ?
Re: Donald Trump
Post Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:05 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:05 pm
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/09/trump-chuckles-shooting-migrants/1150160001/
Hmmm.....No doubt there will be those who defend him, but him joking at about a comment about shooting immigrants is a pretty new low...especially after the weekend
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Re: Donald Trump
Post Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:06 pm
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:06 pm
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wotsupcas wrote:
So what the saintly Obama do about gun control then? Same as Trump - naff all.

Obama tried to get gun control through, republicans blocked it.
Re: Donald Trump
Post Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:04 pm
Posted by wotsupcas on Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:04 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
Obama tried to get gun control through, republicans blocked it.

So naff all like I said
Re: Donald Trump
Post Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:36 am
Posted by bren2k on Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:36 am
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wotsupcas wrote:
So what the saintly Obama do about gun control then? Same as Trump - naff all.


He was constantly thwarted in his attempts to do so.

Clinton banned automatic weapons though - and gun deaths decreased dramatically; Bush allowed the ban to expire, and colour me surprised, they rocketed again.

It's so loving simple, it beggars belief that it even has to be discussed; were the Republicans not in hock to the NRA and their money, it wouldn't even be a conversation - they would just do it.
Re: Donald Trump
Post Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:38 am
Posted by wotsupcas on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:38 am
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Re: Donald Trump
Post Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:42 am
Posted by wotsupcas on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:42 am
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bren2k wrote:
He was constantly thwarted in his attempts to do so.

Clinton banned automatic weapons though - and gun deaths decreased dramatically; Bush allowed the ban to expire, and colour me surprised, they rocketed again.

It's so loving simple, it beggars belief that it even has to be discussed; were the Republicans not in hock to the NRA and their money, it wouldn't even be a conversation - they would just do it.

Don't get me wrong here. Gun control in the states seems like a no brainer from the outside. You would have thought that the citizens of the USA would be banging on the white House doors insisting on it. But successive administrations have failed - not just trump
Re: Donald Trump
Post Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:44 am
Posted by bren2k on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:44 am
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wotsupcas wrote:
Don't get me wrong here. I think the citizens of the USA should be banging on the White House doors to get something done about this. But successive government's have failed them - not just Trump


I don't get the point? Trump is, somehow, the POTUS, and in the absence of a TARDIS, it seems entirely reasonable to look to him to deal with this issue, rather than whatabouting previous incumbents. Yes?
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