Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:34 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I doubt very much that Catholic churches went completely unscathed in Northern Ireland throughout the troubles. They may have done but I would be very surprised. However, I would have to read up a detailed history of events to find out whether they were attacked as I didn't live in Northern Ireland.

I'm not talking about churches in NI. Churches in England weren't attacked in response to terrorist acts on the mainland.

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:37 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I didn't say there was.

I know, but you seemed to be missing the point that was being made about Al Qaeda and Islam

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:38 am  

Rock God X wrote:

I'm not talking about churches in NI. Churches in England weren't attacked in response to terrorist acts on the mainland.

No, but that is because in England the IRA was largely seen as a nationalist organisation and not a religious one.

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:38 am  

Chris28 wrote:

I know, but you seemed to be missing the point that was being made about Al Qaeda and Islam

Then maybe you could rephrase the point?

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:43 am  

Dally wrote:

Well, Essex man was first to reject Labour and turn to Thatcher for the sake of the country. Maybe Essex man could be the saviour of the UK again?

This reads like a justification for attacking that mosque.
Please tell me it isn't.

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:48 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Then maybe you could rephrase the point?

Maybe you could read the thread properly and not jump into a point before you know what is being discussed?

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:56 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

Maybe you could read the thread properly and not jump into a point before you know what is being discussed?

Maybe you could stop being so defensive and rude?

I thought I had understood the point. If I haven't, then it's up to the person making the point to rephrase it so that I can understand it.

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 8:57 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

No, but that is because in England the IRA was largely seen as a nationalist organisation and not a religious one.

Either that or the racist scumbags in the EDL (or its equivalent) could separate the IRA from all Catholics in a way they are unable to separate Al Qaeda from all Muslims.

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 9:04 am  

Rock God X wrote:

Either that or the racist scumbags in the EDL (or its equivalent) could separate the IRA from all Catholics in a way they are unable to separate Al Qaeda from all Muslims.

I don't think the EDL existed back in the day of IRA activity but I'm sure there were similar although I don't ever remember hearing mention of them (mind you there wasn't a 24 hour news service back then either or social networking sites so I'm sure we were a lot less informed generally).

The actions or remit of the EDL cannot be justified. Sadly, alas, it is the way of some forms of humanity to misdirect their anger.

Re: Woolwich incident : Thu May 23, 2013 9:13 am  

Chris28 wrote: Its Wikipedia, but the first sentence here would suggest otherwise. How many Muslims were there in the UK in 1707? How many when I was a kid even?

Chris28 wrote: Its Wikipedia, but the first sentence here would suggest otherwise. How many Muslims were there in the UK in 1707? How many when I was a kid even?