Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:16 am  

it's pretty clear none of you have a loving clue about people do you! Prove to me what I've said isn't true? The fact is I know what I've said is accurate, and people like AP wouldn't/doesn't have the objectivity to listen to people because he's a loving idiot as has being proven time and again.

This 'holiday' has no benefit at all, certainly not with Radford showing videos and not having the qualification nor understanding as to why people do things under stressful circumstances and how to overcome them. if you understand what actually makes people tick and how to motivate them, negate negative thoughts when working (or playing rugby in this case) you remove as much as is possible the chances of folding/failing. That happens all the time in RL as it does in many sports. Having an inexperienced coach whom clearly in his playing days couldn't motivate and didn't have the mental fortitude that's required isn't qualified to instill mental toughness in his charges, certainly not through showing a video and then not saying anything meaningful...

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:00 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

it's pretty clear none of you have a loving clue about people do you! Prove to me what I've said isn't true? The fact is I know what I've said is accurate, and people like AP wouldn't/doesn't have the objectivity to listen to people because he's a loving idiot as has being proven time and again.

This 'holiday' has no benefit at all, certainly not with Radford showing videos and not having the qualification nor understanding as to why people do things under stressful circumstances and how to overcome them. if you understand what actually makes people tick and how to motivate them, negate negative thoughts when working (or playing rugby in this case) you remove as much as is possible the chances of folding/failing. That happens all the time in RL as it does in many sports. Having an inexperienced coach whom clearly in his playing days couldn't motivate and didn't have the mental fortitude that's required isn't qualified to instill mental toughness in his charges, certainly not through showing a video and then not saying anything meaningful...

Complete rubbish as usual.

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:45 am  

hull smallears wrote:

he HAS to make it. For the first time ever I will get a printed name shirt with Zeus on the back

His siblings have been given unforgettable names also,i know there is a River and Ocean amongst others

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:42 am  

dayvoz wrote:

His siblings have been given unforgettable names also,i know there is a River and Ocean amongst others

Would have thought Vinyl would have been a good choice for a Christian name.

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:54 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Firstly they could have done this here in the UK at much less expense, gone off somewhere remote (15mins by car isn't remote which seemed to be the intention) and spent a couple of days being put through their paces with the army/marines/paras and found out about REAL mental toughness.

Watching a video means jack shat if you don't actually prepare the players properly week in week out & on match days and use a sports psychologist. They need to find out about themselves as individuals first & formost & understand what it is that pushes them into the dark corners & also what buttons pushes them to not give up, to keep going again & again. Use all the methods that proper pro sports do.

I'm sorry but Radford showing them a video & not saying anything or not knowing what to say doesn't resolve anything, it doesn't get to the root causes as to why people do X in any given situation, rugby players are no different to other people, they just happen to be good at rugby, they have the same weaknesses mentally as ordinary folk do, you see it week in week out in SL. As said, Radford let the pictures do the talking, why didn't he say anything or explain what happened & why, why was that, it just isn't useful even more so to the younger lads.

Warm weather training is all well and good to get a bit more daylight hours in but given our season starts in winter where is the true benefit?

Worst bit is why can't professional sportsmen keep out of bars/not drink alcohol whilst on a focussed training camp, that was obviously a concern given it was mentioned(subtly). Do they not trust the players around bars then to obey orders, I find that rather worrying tbh.
I so want us to improve and be the best but this yet again stinks of amateur night and not actually really understanding how to achieve the goal, or indeed understanding the goal itself fully.
I hope we don't fold like a pack of cards when under the cosh like we seem to do so often but christ can we just not hire professionals to do the non rugby aspect?

If I was you mate, I'd be sending your CV to Adam Pearson asap. He probably has no idea that the next big thing in coaching, a rugby league sage if you will, is sitting right under his nose.

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:54 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

it's pretty clear none of you have a loving clue about people do you! Prove to me what I've said isn't true? The fact is I know what I've said is accurate, and people like AP wouldn't/doesn't have the objectivity to listen to people because he's a loving idiot as has being proven time and again.

This 'holiday' has no benefit at all, certainly not with Radford showing videos and not having the qualification nor understanding as to why people do things under stressful circumstances and how to overcome them. if you understand what actually makes people tick and how to motivate them, negate negative thoughts when working (or playing rugby in this case) you remove as much as is possible the chances of folding/failing. That happens all the time in RL as it does in many sports. Having an inexperienced coach whom clearly in his playing days couldn't motivate and didn't have the mental fortitude that's required isn't qualified to instill mental toughness in his charges, certainly not through showing a video and then not saying anything meaningful...

Calm down.
Some of what you say may well come from life experience that you have and may well be true. BUT you are getting a tad heated about a 30 minute snippet of an entire week in Portugal.
I have been on many many courses professionally and have learnt a great deal from them. Most of what I have learnt in life has come from listening to experienced people who have been there before. I suspect this is how most people learn. Either that or through personal mistakes.
Now I am not Radfords biggest fan by a long way. I sit in the I will give him a chance though I'd rather we had someone more experienced, camp.
I hope it works out for him, but I am certain he knows that if we are struggling at Easter he may well be out. That's the reality as I see it.
Now how he avoids that is up to him and his back room staff. Many of whom will have a range of experiences and may well have been on many courses that you and I are not privy to. Therefore you can not state with absolute certainty what you claim.
AP is as far as I can see a successful business man. Ok he's not Alan Sugar or Richard Branson but he has done very well. I'm sure he is comfortable with his decisions. He may well know he's made mistakes, many of us have recognised some. But to rant on because you feel Portugal is a luxury that isn't needed is making you look silly.
By going there the team can guarantee training. Something you can't do in December in the UK. A week or two lost now can make a massive difference in Feb, March, April.
I would suggest you lower your blood pressure and if need be come back in April and then say I told you so. For the time being though, enjoy Christmas and back the club you claim to support.

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:57 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

it's pretty clear none of you have a loving clue about people do you! Prove to me what I've said isn't true? The fact is I know what I've said is accurate, and people like AP wouldn't/doesn't have the objectivity to listen to people because he's a loving idiot as has being proven time and again.

This 'holiday' has no benefit at all, certainly not with Radford showing videos and not having the qualification nor understanding as to why people do things under stressful circumstances and how to overcome them. if you understand what actually makes people tick and how to motivate them, negate negative thoughts when working (or playing rugby in this case) you remove as much as is possible the chances of folding/failing. That happens all the time in RL as it does in many sports. Having an inexperienced coach whom clearly in his playing days couldn't motivate and didn't have the mental fortitude that's required isn't qualified to instill mental toughness in his charges, certainly not through showing a video and then not saying anything meaningful...

I read a couple of posts you made on the sin bin a while back about the way you manage your staff. I just remember thinking thank god I don't work for that idiot.

[Kosh]

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:29 am  

People who continually repost the same tired arguments in a deliberately inflammatory manner and regularly use insulting language should bear in mind that the last person to do so no longer posts on this site.

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:36 am  

Kosh wrote:

People who continually repost the same tired arguments in a deliberately inflammatory manner and regularly use insulting language should bear in mind that the last person to do so no longer posts on this site.

I thought I hadn't seen them for a while. Is that a perma-ban then?

Re: Portugal : Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:01 am  

C for Cuckoo wrote:

Connor Bower and Zeus Silk were mentioned in the HDM.

Both are a long way of first team, but have been taken as a reward due to attitude and hard work in training