Overseas players : Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:08 pm  

How many are clubs allowed this year? There seems to be more than previous years. Are super league and the championship rules now the same on overseas players?

Re: Overseas players : Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm  

Make what you will of C1:4:1 and C1:4:2 http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=C1

Make what you will of C1:4:1 and C1:4:2 http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=C1

Re: Overseas players : Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:23 pm  

When did Kevin Sinfield get knighted?

Re: Overseas players : Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:34 pm  

As long as they have a "British " passport it seems even with exemptions etc you can have many as you want.

Hull KR should be able to advise.

Re: Overseas players : Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:43 pm  

Iain wrote: Make what you will of C1:4:1 and C1:4:2 http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=C1 There's also, more pertinently: FIRST TEAM SQUAD B1:8 No later than 1 October prior to the commencement of each Season, each Super League Club shall notify the Board in writing of the names of up to 25 players who shall constitute that Club's provisional first team squad for that Season ("the Provisional First Team Squad"). Each Super League Club shall notify the Board immediately of any changes to this Provisional First Team Squad. No later than 1 February, or no later than fourteen days prior to the commencement of the Season if earlier, each Super League Club shall notify the Board in writing of the squad (“First Team Squad”) numbers of those 25 players who will then become the Clubs First Team Squad and only members of that First Team Squad shall be entitled to play for that Club’s first team in League and/or Cup matches. The Board shall ensure that its Performance Department monitors use of players by all Clubs. No later than 48 hours before the first training session prior to the commencement of each Season each Championships Club shall provide the RFL with a list of the names of the players who will be training with the Club (the “In Training Squad”) and shall continue to inform the RFL of any additions to or deletions from that list. Any correctly registered player will be automatically added to the In Training Squad. B1:9 Super League Clubs may with the approval of the Board, replace injured or ill players or players transferred to other Clubs or who have ceased playing the Game, alter the constituent members of their First Team Squad during a Season and all such changes shall be notified in writing to, and shall be subject to the approval of, the Board. In addition Super League Clubs shall be able to apply for dispensation to replace a member of their First Team Squad with a Player that the Club believes is of a higher standard than the Player he replaces. B1:10 Super League Clubs shall be entitled to select and play any eligible player from their First Team Squad from time to time for any Match. B1:11 Championship Clubs shall be entitled to select and play any eligible Player from the In Training List. CLUB TRAINED B1:12 The purpose behind the “Home Grown Player” Rule is: to encourage Clubs to develop and better develop their own players so that there are more players coming into the game and so that the standard improves; and to afford an opportunity to junior players to play in top level competitive matches in order to aid their development and ensure the development of the sport. Definitions. “Federation” means the RLEF; B1:12A At the time of notification in any season of the Provisional First Team Squad and First Team Squad and following any amendments during the season, a Club’s First Team Squad, where that Club is in Super League, must consist of: a maximum of 7 players who satisfy none of the definitions of Club Trained, Federation Trained or are working towards either classification. a minimum of 7 Club Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards that classification. the remainder being made up of Club Trained, Federation Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards either classification. B1:12B The following definitions shall apply to Clause B1:12A above: ‘Club Trained Player’: a player who has been on the Club’s register for any 3 full Seasons before the end of the Season in which he ceases to be eligible by age to play at Under 21 level. For the avoidance of doubt, from the 2010 Season onwards a player must satisfy the requirement to have been on the Club’s register for 3 full Seasons before being ineligible to play at Under 21 level in order to qualify as a ‘Club Trained Player’ and the fact that he may have qualified as a ‘Club Trained Player’ in the 2008 and/or 2009 Seasons shall be irrelevant. ‘Federation Trained Player’: a player who, for any 3 full Seasons [before the end of the Season in which he ceases to be eligible by age to play at Under 21 level has been on one of the Club’s register or the register of another Club being a member of the same rugby league Federation. For the avoidance of doubt if a player moves from one Club’s register to another Club’s register and there is a period of no more than 28 days in the Season (as defined) and any amount of the period between the 1 December and the day of the first League Match, Representative Match or Cup Tie (whichever is sooner) between being removed from one register and being registered with another Club, consecutively shall not be broken for the purposes of this clause. In addition a Club may apply for a Player who has been granted New Talent Pool status by the RSCM (see E1:5.12 below) to be granted Federation Trained status. ‘Academy Junior’: a player who is eligible by age to play at Under 21 level and who is on the Club’s Register.

Iain wrote: Make what you will of C1:4:1 and C1:4:2 http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=C1 There's also, more pertinently: FIRST TEAM SQUAD B1:8 No later than 1 October prior to the commencement of each Season, each Super League Club shall notify the Board in writing of the names of up to 25 players who shall constitute that Club's provisional first team squad for that Season ("the Provisional First Team Squad"). Each Super League Club shall notify the Board immediately of any changes to this Provisional First Team Squad. No later than 1 February, or no later than fourteen days prior to the commencement of the Season if earlier, each Super League Club shall notify the Board in writing of the squad (“First Team Squad”) numbers of those 25 players who will then become the Clubs First Team Squad and only members of that First Team Squad shall be entitled to play for that Club’s first team in League and/or Cup matches. The Board shall ensure that its Performance Department monitors use of players by all Clubs. No later than 48 hours before the first training session prior to the commencement of each Season each Championships Club shall provide the RFL with a list of the names of the players who will be training with the Club (the “In Training Squad”) and shall continue to inform the RFL of any additions to or deletions from that list. Any correctly registered player will be automatically added to the In Training Squad. B1:9 Super League Clubs may with the approval of the Board, replace injured or ill players or players transferred to other Clubs or who have ceased playing the Game, alter the constituent members of their First Team Squad during a Season and all such changes shall be notified in writing to, and shall be subject to the approval of, the Board. In addition Super League Clubs shall be able to apply for dispensation to replace a member of their First Team Squad with a Player that the Club believes is of a higher standard than the Player he replaces. B1:10 Super League Clubs shall be entitled to select and play any eligible player from their First Team Squad from time to time for any Match. B1:11 Championship Clubs shall be entitled to select and play any eligible Player from the In Training List. CLUB TRAINED B1:12 The purpose behind the “Home Grown Player” Rule is: to encourage Clubs to develop and better develop their own players so that there are more players coming into the game and so that the standard improves; and to afford an opportunity to junior players to play in top level competitive matches in order to aid their development and ensure the development of the sport. Definitions. “Federation” means the RLEF; B1:12A At the time of notification in any season of the Provisional First Team Squad and First Team Squad and following any amendments during the season, a Club’s First Team Squad, where that Club is in Super League, must consist of: a maximum of 7 players who satisfy none of the definitions of Club Trained, Federation Trained or are working towards either classification. a minimum of 7 Club Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards that classification. the remainder being made up of Club Trained, Federation Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards either classification. B1:12B The following definitions shall apply to Clause B1:12A above: ‘Club Trained Player’: a player who has been on the Club’s register for any 3 full Seasons before the end of the Season in which he ceases to be eligible by age to play at Under 21 level. For the avoidance of doubt, from the 2010 Season onwards a player must satisfy the requirement to have been on the Club’s register for 3 full Seasons before being ineligible to play at Under 21 level in order to qualify as a ‘Club Trained Player’ and the fact that he may have qualified as a ‘Club Trained Player’ in the 2008 and/or 2009 Seasons shall be irrelevant. ‘Federation Trained Player’: a player who, for any 3 full Seasons [before the end of the Season in which he ceases to be eligible by age to play at Under 21 level has been on one of the Club’s register or the register of another Club being a member of the same rugby league Federation. For the avoidance of doubt if a player moves from one Club’s register to another Club’s register and there is a period of no more than 28 days in the Season (as defined) and any amount of the period between the 1 December and the day of the first League Match, Representative Match or Cup Tie (whichever is sooner) between being removed from one register and being registered with another Club, consecutively shall not be broken for the purposes of this clause. In addition a Club may apply for a Player who has been granted New Talent Pool status by the RSCM (see E1:5.12 below) to be granted Federation Trained status. ‘Academy Junior’: a player who is eligible by age to play at Under 21 level and who is on the Club’s Register.

Re: Overseas players : Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:58 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

There's also, more pertinently:

I was trying to find that, but a search on "Federation" didn't bring it up. Started to wonder if it had been sacked off.

Re: Overseas players : Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:42 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

As long as they have a "British " passport it seems even with exemptions etc you can have many as you want.

Hull KR should be able to advise.

Salford seem to have taken hull krs' crown regarding overseas players so far

Re: Overseas players : Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:58 pm  

AFAIK it's 5 on the Overseas Quota and 7 non-Fed Trained. I believe it's the same for Championship clubs but I might be wrong on that.

I make it as:
Huddersfield - 2
Warrington - 3
Wigan - 4
St Helens - 5
Leeds - 6
Hull KR - 6
Salford - 7 (or 6 w/out Chase)
Castleford - 7
Hull FC - 7
Wakefield - 8
Widnes - 8
Catalans - 10

I haven't included French players at English clubs and vice versa ie Whitehead

[Frosties.]

Re: Overseas players : Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:42 pm  

Him wrote:

AFAIK it's 5 on the Overseas Quota and 7 non-Fed Trained. I believe it's the same for Championship clubs but I might be wrong on that.

I make it as:
Huddersfield - 2
Warrington - 3
Wigan - 4
St Helens - 5
Leeds - 6
Hull KR - 6
Salford - 7 (or 6 w/out Chase)
Castleford - 7
Hull FC - 7
Wakefield - 8
Widnes - 8
Catalans - 10

I haven't included French players at English clubs and vice versa ie Whitehead

NFT - Moon, Delaney, Aiton, Achurch, Cuthbertson.
Overseas - Moon, Delaney, Aiton, Leuluai.

Achurch and Cuthbertson are exempt from Overseas quota. Leuluai exempt from Non Fed Trained quota.

Re: Overseas players : Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:48 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

NFT - Moon, Delaney, Aiton, Achurch, Cuthbertson.
Overseas - Moon, Delaney, Aiton, Leuluai.

Achurch and Cuthbertson are exempt from Overseas quota. Leuluai exempt from Non Fed Trained quota.

Yeah I didnt count who was on or exempt from what quota as I don't know the circumstances of all of them bar the Leeds ones and few others.

It's just a list of "foreign" players at SL clubs, except for French & Whitehead at Catalans. But there's only 1 or 2 Frenchmen in English SL squads anyway.