Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benefits : Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:49 am  

The NSW government announced on Monday that it will spend $600 million to redevelop the major sports stadiums of Sydney, including ANZ Stadium, Allianz Stadium (home of Sydney Roosters RL and Sydney FC soccer), Pirtek Stadium (home of Parramatta Eels rugby league and Western Wanderers soccer), and possibly another stadium in the far west of Sydney. If all the stadiums get their fair share of the money, the main beneficiaries will be rugby league and soccer, because they use Allianz Stadium, ANZ and Pirtek more regularly than rugby union and AFL. The Sydney Swans AFL team has announced that it is moving its home games from ANZ to the SCG in 2017, which means that little AFL will be played at ANZ. However there is going to be a big fight about how the money will be divided up between Allianz, ANZ and Pirtek. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 7133631151 The 83,500 seat ANZ Stadium --- home to NSW State of Oriigin, the NRL Grand Final and preliminary finals, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, and Wests Tigers --- has a brilliant redevelopment plan, which it estimates will cost $350 million. The key highlights of the proposed redevelopment include: • Bringing fans closer to the action: Moveable grandstands at both ends of the Stadium bring fans as close as 5m to the field of play by creating a perfect rectangle for Rugby League, Rugby Union and Football. Fans will be as close and in some instances closer to the action behind the goals than they are at Allianz Stadium, Suncorp Stadium and the iconic Emirates and Wembley stadiums in London. ANZ Stadium retains the ability to be configured for AFL and Cricket; • A retractable roof: It will open or close in 20 minutes and weather-proof all events to ensure perfect playing conditions and spectator comfort all-year round; • Improving atmosphere: Capacity is maintained at 80,000-plus, but new design features allow the Stadium to be presented in an “Intimate Mode” – a unique London Olympics-style LED solution – that gives the Stadium the ability to configure appropriately for small, medium and large events. • Lively Stadium Precinct: A proposed dynamic entertainment zone will wrap around the Stadium, bringing life, colour and energy to the precinct 365 days a year. New bars, cafes and restaurants are planned for both inside and out, creating a vibrant event destination; • Better transport: The Stadium redevelopment will coincide with the construction of the WestConnex motorway, which will cut travelling time from the CBD to ANZ Stadium in half. The NSW Government is also considering a proposal for a Light Rail corridor between Parramatta and Sydney Olympic Park. The planned $350 million investment in the Stadium is designed to ensure Sydney’s Olympic showpiece remains the iconic venue it was built to be, and enable NSW to continue to secure major events in the face of competition from international and interstate rivals. This promotional video (prepared before the announcement that Sydney Swans AFL will move from ANZ to the SCG in 2017) looks brilliant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBEzGEwPPk

The NSW government announced on Monday that it will spend $600 million to redevelop the major sports stadiums of Sydney, including ANZ Stadium, Allianz Stadium (home of Sydney Roosters RL and Sydney FC soccer), Pirtek Stadium (home of Parramatta Eels rugby league and Western Wanderers soccer), and possibly another stadium in the far west of Sydney. If all the stadiums get their fair share of the money, the main beneficiaries will be rugby league and soccer, because they use Allianz Stadium, ANZ and Pirtek more regularly than rugby union and AFL. The Sydney Swans AFL team has announced that it is moving its home games from ANZ to the SCG in 2017, which means that little AFL will be played at ANZ. However there is going to be a big fight about how the money will be divided up between Allianz, ANZ and Pirtek. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 7133631151 The 83,500 seat ANZ Stadium --- home to NSW State of Oriigin, the NRL Grand Final and preliminary finals, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, and Wests Tigers --- has a brilliant redevelopment plan, which it estimates will cost $350 million. The key highlights of the proposed redevelopment include: • Bringing fans closer to the action: Moveable grandstands at both ends of the Stadium bring fans as close as 5m to the field of play by creating a perfect rectangle for Rugby League, Rugby Union and Football. Fans will be as close and in some instances closer to the action behind the goals than they are at Allianz Stadium, Suncorp Stadium and the iconic Emirates and Wembley stadiums in London. ANZ Stadium retains the ability to be configured for AFL and Cricket; • A retractable roof: It will open or close in 20 minutes and weather-proof all events to ensure perfect playing conditions and spectator comfort all-year round; • Improving atmosphere: Capacity is maintained at 80,000-plus, but new design features allow the Stadium to be presented in an “Intimate Mode” – a unique London Olympics-style LED solution – that gives the Stadium the ability to configure appropriately for small, medium and large events. • Lively Stadium Precinct: A proposed dynamic entertainment zone will wrap around the Stadium, bringing life, colour and energy to the precinct 365 days a year. New bars, cafes and restaurants are planned for both inside and out, creating a vibrant event destination; • Better transport: The Stadium redevelopment will coincide with the construction of the WestConnex motorway, which will cut travelling time from the CBD to ANZ Stadium in half. The NSW Government is also considering a proposal for a Light Rail corridor between Parramatta and Sydney Olympic Park. The planned $350 million investment in the Stadium is designed to ensure Sydney’s Olympic showpiece remains the iconic venue it was built to be, and enable NSW to continue to secure major events in the face of competition from international and interstate rivals. This promotional video (prepared before the announcement that Sydney Swans AFL will move from ANZ to the SCG in 2017) looks brilliant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBEzGEwPPk

Re: Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benef : Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:43 pm  

They need to do something for the larger sport. ie. Association football.

It has been the sport with the highest participation level for years, and now, after the achievements of the Socceroos making consecutive World Cups, the introduction of the A-League, and the Wanderers winning the Asian Cup. They realise they have to increase the capacity and upgrade the facilities of some stadia.

Re: Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benef : Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:05 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote: The NSW government announced on Monday that it will spend $600 million to redevelop the major sports stadiums of Sydney, including ANZ Stadium, Allianz Stadium (home of Sydney Roosters RL and Sydney FC soccer), Pirtek Stadium (home of Parramatta Eels rugby league and Western Wanderers soccer), and possibly another stadium in the far west of Sydney. If all the stadiums get their fair share of the money, the main beneficiaries will be rugby league and soccer, because they use Allianz Stadium, ANZ and Pirtek more regularly than rugby union and AFL. The Sydney Swans AFL team has announced that it is moving its home games from ANZ to the SCG in 2017, which means that little AFL will be played at ANZ. However there is going to be a big fight about how the money will be divided up between Allianz, ANZ and Pirtek. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 7133631151 The 83,500 seat ANZ Stadium --- home to NSW State of Oriigin, the NRL Grand Final and preliminary finals, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, and Wests Tigers --- has a brilliant redevelopment plan, which it estimates will cost $350 million. The key highlights of the proposed redevelopment include: • Bringing fans closer to the action: Moveable grandstands at both ends of the Stadium bring fans as close as 5m to the field of play by creating a perfect rectangle for Rugby League, Rugby Union and Football. Fans will be as close and in some instances closer to the action behind the goals than they are at Allianz Stadium, Suncorp Stadium and the iconic Emirates and Wembley stadiums in London. ANZ Stadium retains the ability to be configured for AFL and Cricket; • A retractable roof: It will open or close in 20 minutes and weather-proof all events to ensure perfect playing conditions and spectator comfort all-year round; • Improving atmosphere: Capacity is maintained at 80,000-plus, but new design features allow the Stadium to be presented in an “Intimate Mode” – a unique London Olympics-style LED solution – that gives the Stadium the ability to configure appropriately for small, medium and large events. • Lively Stadium Precinct: A proposed dynamic entertainment zone will wrap around the Stadium, bringing life, colour and energy to the precinct 365 days a year. New bars, cafes and restaurants are planned for both inside and out, creating a vibrant event destination; • Better transport: The Stadium redevelopment will coincide with the construction of the WestConnex motorway, which will cut travelling time from the CBD to ANZ Stadium in half. The NSW Government is also considering a proposal for a Light Rail corridor between Parramatta and Sydney Olympic Park. The planned $350 million investment in the Stadium is designed to ensure Sydney’s Olympic showpiece remains the iconic venue it was built to be, and enable NSW to continue to secure major events in the face of competition from international and interstate rivals. This promotional video (prepared before the announcement that Sydney Swans AFL will move from ANZ to the SCG in 2017) looks brilliant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBEzGEwPPk These improvements are not needed for the all but two RL games - the crowds for regular season NRL games border on the laughable.

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote: The NSW government announced on Monday that it will spend $600 million to redevelop the major sports stadiums of Sydney, including ANZ Stadium, Allianz Stadium (home of Sydney Roosters RL and Sydney FC soccer), Pirtek Stadium (home of Parramatta Eels rugby league and Western Wanderers soccer), and possibly another stadium in the far west of Sydney. If all the stadiums get their fair share of the money, the main beneficiaries will be rugby league and soccer, because they use Allianz Stadium, ANZ and Pirtek more regularly than rugby union and AFL. The Sydney Swans AFL team has announced that it is moving its home games from ANZ to the SCG in 2017, which means that little AFL will be played at ANZ. However there is going to be a big fight about how the money will be divided up between Allianz, ANZ and Pirtek. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 7133631151 The 83,500 seat ANZ Stadium --- home to NSW State of Oriigin, the NRL Grand Final and preliminary finals, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, and Wests Tigers --- has a brilliant redevelopment plan, which it estimates will cost $350 million. The key highlights of the proposed redevelopment include: • Bringing fans closer to the action: Moveable grandstands at both ends of the Stadium bring fans as close as 5m to the field of play by creating a perfect rectangle for Rugby League, Rugby Union and Football. Fans will be as close and in some instances closer to the action behind the goals than they are at Allianz Stadium, Suncorp Stadium and the iconic Emirates and Wembley stadiums in London. ANZ Stadium retains the ability to be configured for AFL and Cricket; • A retractable roof: It will open or close in 20 minutes and weather-proof all events to ensure perfect playing conditions and spectator comfort all-year round; • Improving atmosphere: Capacity is maintained at 80,000-plus, but new design features allow the Stadium to be presented in an “Intimate Mode” – a unique London Olympics-style LED solution – that gives the Stadium the ability to configure appropriately for small, medium and large events. • Lively Stadium Precinct: A proposed dynamic entertainment zone will wrap around the Stadium, bringing life, colour and energy to the precinct 365 days a year. New bars, cafes and restaurants are planned for both inside and out, creating a vibrant event destination; • Better transport: The Stadium redevelopment will coincide with the construction of the WestConnex motorway, which will cut travelling time from the CBD to ANZ Stadium in half. The NSW Government is also considering a proposal for a Light Rail corridor between Parramatta and Sydney Olympic Park. The planned $350 million investment in the Stadium is designed to ensure Sydney’s Olympic showpiece remains the iconic venue it was built to be, and enable NSW to continue to secure major events in the face of competition from international and interstate rivals. This promotional video (prepared before the announcement that Sydney Swans AFL will move from ANZ to the SCG in 2017) looks brilliant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBEzGEwPPk These improvements are not needed for the all but two RL games - the crowds for regular season NRL games border on the laughable.

Re: Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benef : Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:17 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

These improvements are not needed for the all but two RL games - the crowds for regular season NRL games border on the laughable.

No. State of Origin and the NRL Grand Final are sellouts or virtually so. But also a couple of big matches against other top teams for each of South Sydney and Canterbury-Bankstown can be very large.

These improvements are also needed for soccer internationals and Bledisloe Cup rugby union.

Re: Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benef : Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:03 pm  

The NRL needs to ditch ANZ for club games and push for a Suncorp or AAMi style stadium in the West of sydney to be built. ANZ is a terrible ground and makes the game look like a 2nd grade Union event with 60,000 empty seats.

Ideally we would see Alliance upgarded and a Friday night blockbuster played there every week with Roosters, Souths and Dragons playing out of it, a new 40,000 seater Western sydney stadium for Bulldogs, Eels, Wanderers and Tigers and ANZ left for big derbies and finals.

Manly, Panthers and Sharks are screwed!

Re: Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benef : Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:36 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

The NRL needs to ditch ANZ for club games and push for a Suncorp or AAMi style stadium in the West of sydney to be built. ANZ is a terrible ground and makes the game look like a 2nd grade Union event with 60,000 empty seats.

Ideally we would see Alliance upgarded and a Friday night blockbuster played there every week with Roosters, Souths and Dragons playing out of it, a new 40,000 seater Western sydney stadium for Bulldogs, Eels, Wanderers and Tigers and ANZ left for big derbies and finals.

Manly, Panthers and Sharks are screwed!

ANZ cannot survive if it is ditched for NRL club games. It is barely keeping afloat now. The NSW government cannot let ANZ get into worse straits because it may have to be sold and torn down. That would mean that Sydney would have no world class stadium for big events like SoO and the NRL grand final, soccer internationals and rugby union internationals.

The idea of making Allianz into a 65000 seater makes no sense because (1) the Roosters, Souths and St George-Illawarra can never get it half full except for one or two of Souths games each season (2) Sydney FC will only half fill it for two games a year (3) if used instead of ANZ for the blockbuster events then 20000 Sydney residents will be deprived seats for those games (4) most Sydney residents are closer to ANZ than to Allianz, and would prefer to make the journey there for blockbuster events, rather than to public transport deprived and limited parking space available Allianz.

Sydney is forecast to grow from 4.5 million now to 6 million in 2050. most of the growth will be in a transport corridor proximate to ANZ, with Canterbury Bulldogs and Wests Tigers being the biggest growth potential clubs, alongside iconic Crowe and Packer backed South Sydney. The three clubs are currently resident at ANZ! If ANZ seating is reshaped then ANZ atmosphere will be good and attract plenty of RL fans to the lower and middle tiers of ANZ.

Re: Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benef : Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:03 pm  

Its not the job of the NRL to keep ANZ viable. the NRL needs to do whats best for its clubs and fans. Wembley and Twickers seem to survive with min big game usage. ANZ would still host 20-30 events a year. The fans deserve better than sitting in a cavernous empty stadium in low pitch seats with no roof cover over 40% of the used seats in a area with very little entertainment opportunity pre and post game.

I'd have
Friday night sydney derby blockbuster Allianz with adult orientated entertainmnet village outside stadium
Sunday afternoon Sydney derby blockbuster at ANZ with family orientated entertainment outside ground
Free admission to any full NRL member to these games, target 30k avg for Friday nights and 45k avg for Sunday afternoon games
for home games not in these blockbuster fixtures - New 35-40,000 stadium in Western Sydney for Eels, Tigers, Bulldogs
Allianz for Souths, Roosters and Dragons.
Manly, Cronulla and Penrith need to find solutions to their run down stadiums but no easy answers for them as too far for fans to travel to Allianz or new stadium and no funding avail to upgrdae their grounds, as I said they are long term screwed.

Re: Sydney stadia get money for upgrades: rugby league benef : Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:40 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

Its not the job of the NRL to keep ANZ viable. the NRL needs to do whats best for its clubs and fans. Wembley and Twickers seem to survive with min big game usage. ANZ would still host 20-30 events a year. The fans deserve better than sitting in a cavernous empty stadium in low pitch seats with no roof cover over 40% of the used seats in a area with very little entertainment opportunity pre and post game.

I'd have
Friday night sydney derby blockbuster Allianz with adult orientated entertainmnet village outside stadium
Sunday afternoon Sydney derby blockbuster at ANZ with family orientated entertainment ouqtside ground
Free admission to any full NRL member to these games, target 30k avg for Friday nights and 45k avg for Sunday afternoon games
for home games not in these blockbuster fixtures - New 35-40,000 stadium in Western Sydney for Eels, Tigers, Bulldogs
Allianz for Souths, Roosters and Dragons.
Manly, Cronulla and Penrith need to find solutions to their run down stadiums but no easy answers for them as too far for fans to travel to Allianz or new stadium and no funding avail to upgrdae their grounds, as I said they are long term screwed.

Have you ever been to Allianz? I have many times. If you had you would know that the parking siuation is terrible. Even if they built an unsightly multistorey parking lot on the current ground only site, they would not be able to get the cars in and out without major road widening at the expense of Moore Park. When they have major events at Allianz now they use Moore Park for parking but the exit process is a nightmare for all drivers. The environmentalists would raise hell about it and it may not get through parliament. Those who come by train have a significant walk up a steep hill from Central Station to get to the ground. Allianz needs a facelift and a roof, but it's current 45,000 capacity is sufficient for the Roosters and the 30,000 member South Sydney's home games against non-Sydney clubs.

You propose a plan that would "screw" three major clubs. That is unacceptable. I would give Manly $20 million to build a new grandstand with modern flush toilets. I would do the same for Penrith. Cronulla has enough money from its real estate to finance its own renovations. Then I would give Allianz $100m to upgrade with a roof, but at current seating capacity. I would give Pirtek $100m to upgrade to 30,000 seats. But I would give ANZ $260 million to upgrade facilities, and a roof, according to their outlined plan. I would also implement the light rail from Parramatta as proposed. This would increase attendances from the western suburbs and make ANZ a Mecca for sports fans from all parts of Sydney.