Re: Robbo extends contract : Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:02 pm  

Code13 wrote:

Tell me which of our players had a good season last year

wardle?
murphy
crabtree
brough
bailey

but overall as a team we were cr@p last year

Re: Robbo extends contract : Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:44 pm  

Not really
Yes
Yes
Not really
Yes

So 3 out of?

Yet we single out one or two players for ire

Re: Robbo extends contract : Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:31 am  

brearley84 wrote:

wardle?
murphy
crabtree
brough
bailey

but overall as a team we were cr@p last year

I think Wood was solid last year when given a starting spot. Was starting to look good when him and Brough started to gel. Then he got injured... And we seemed to collapse again.

On the topic I'm well happy with a deal for Robbo. He does throw hospital passes... Probably one two many. His experience is valuable and I hope to see him off the bench running at a tired defense.

Anyone against the deal... Even if you don't rate him... He is fantastic cover should we get injuries.

Re: Robbo extends contract : Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:12 am  

AntGiant wrote:

I think Wood was solid last year when given a starting spot. Was starting to look good when him and Brough started to gel. Then he got injured... And we seemed to collapse again.

On the topic I'm well happy with a deal for Robbo. He does throw hospital passes... Probably one two many. His experience is valuable and I hope to see him off the bench running at a tired defense.

Anyone against the deal... Even if you don't rate him... He is fantastic cover should we get injuries.

I get the whole "good in the dressing room bit", I also can understand why coaches like him. He's tough, he'll give 100%, he'll put his body on the line, I bet he's an enthusiastic and willing worker in training and I'm damned sure he is good for dressing room morale. However he is 30. He still had 1 year to run on his current contract. At the end of that he will be 31. In 2011 he was probably our best player but he has been in steady decline since then. He has lost a yard of acceleration. He also has a tendency to make bad decisions. He was always a player who played with his body rather than his mind. He also has a tendency to get hit hard and late by opposition forwards. He could be only one or two hits like that away from spending the rest of his life sitting in a darkened room, overdosing on painkillers.

What I therefore cannot understand is why someone would think that extending such a players contract by 2 years while his current deal has 1 year left to run makes good business sense. The club could wait until half way through next season, see how he goes and then extend it. What happens if his form drops off a cliff? What happens, god forbid, if he gets a serious injury? It's the right decision from a sentimental point of view but if the club is serious about winning things then decisions like this can't be made. We now have one less roster spot available for 2016 and 17. That limits the clubs options going forward, it blocks the potential development of a young player. It seems the club has not learned the lessons of the Keith Mason saga and that is worrying.

Re: Robbo extends contract : Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:01 am  

Mad_Jack_Mcmad wrote:

I get the whole "good in the dressing room bit", I also can understand why coaches like him. He's tough, he'll give 100%, he'll put his body on the line, I bet he's an enthusiastic and willing worker in training and I'm damned sure he is good for dressing room morale. However he is 30. He still had 1 year to run on his current contract. At the end of that he will be 31. In 2011 he was probably our best player but he has been in steady decline since then. He has lost a yard of acceleration. He also has a tendency to make bad decisions. He was always a player who played with his body rather than his mind. He also has a tendency to get hit hard and late by opposition forwards. He could be only one or two hits like that away from spending the rest of his life sitting in a darkened room, overdosing on painkillers.

What I therefore cannot understand is why someone would think that extending such a players contract by 2 years while his current deal has 1 year left to run makes good business sense. The club could wait until half way through next season, see how he goes and then extend it. What happens if his form drops off a cliff? What happens, god forbid, if he gets a serious injury? It's the right decision from a sentimental point of view but if the club is serious about winning things then decisions like this can't be made. We now have one less roster spot available for 2016 and 17. That limits the clubs options going forward, it blocks the potential development of a young player. It seems the club has not learned the lessons of the Keith Mason saga and that is worrying.

Extending Robbos contract hardly shoots down our ambitions of winning things. Forget about next season and see the signing as extending a contract of a hard working lad, with tons of experience who can play good rugby in key positions. Positions where World beaters don't exactly come around so often. For the club, and the business this extension can only be a good thing for our future surely...
He's given us plenty of reasons to celebrate the decision not question it.

Re: Robbo extends contract : Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:33 pm  

Code13 wrote:

Not really
Yes
Yes
Not really
Yes

So 3 out of?

Yet we single out one or two players for ire

so you agree on 3 then at least. Just giving you what you asked for

Re: Robbo extends contract : Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:35 pm  

sure this move is to play him at hooker, hope we got him at the right price too.

he was struggling badly last season with injuried, they had to give him a rest at one point due to this, not been in for any ops pre season as far as i know, one tough cookie though

Re: Robbo extends contract : Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:46 pm  

AntGiant wrote:

Extending Robbos contract hardly shoots down our ambitions of winning things. Forget about next season and see the signing as extending a contract of a hard working lad, with tons of experience who can play good rugby in key positions. Positions where World beaters don't exactly come around so often. For the club, and the business this extension can only be a good thing for our future surely...
He's given us plenty of reasons to celebrate the decision not question it.

The very key thing is we have some youngsters with excellent potential in the HB position the best I've seen for a while. And Brough and robbo around to bring them on alongside Thorman will be invaluable to their development.

Re: Robbo extends contract : Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:30 am  

jools wrote:

The very key thing is we have some youngsters with excellent potential in the HB position the best I've seen for a while. And Brough and robbo around to bring them on alongside Thorman will be invaluable to their development.

Exactly!! Robbo for me has one of the bravest souls out there! A great work ethic and attitude! We are building to be one of the sl clubs that brings through our own talent through the academy. For this to work we need the like of robbo to stick with us.
He is a talent and I believe at hooker he will cause a lot of damage. The things he can pass on to cruise, Connor and the rest is invaluable not just how to play the game but be a professional!
It's a great reward for him and a player in years to come who many will not forget!

Re: Robbo extends contract : Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:56 am  

maybe, just maybe he has signed an extended contract that might have a clause that should he feel the need to call it a day, for whatever reason, hopefully no serious injury? maybe he has taken a pay cut to enable to club the offer him such a contract? maybe his contract has something to do with coaching the young kids that we are all clamouring for??

i for one am happy to know that we have robbo on board for another 3 years in whatever capacity..he may not be the best half back or hooker but his desire and experience is invaluable i feel.