Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:57 pm  

We need to be realistic here.

Top 8 would be a considerable improvement on last season. Its also probably everyone's (including AP's) mininum requirement.

A 6th place finish would mean real progress.

Lets not have any silly talk of top 4 please.

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:26 pm  

I'm hoping we finish in the top 8 as not doing so has massive implications for the future of the club IMO. I think clubs who will definitely finish above us are

wigan
saints
wire
leeds
les cats
hudds

We're in the mix with

cas
rovers
salford
and possibly widnes although I'm far from convinced about them

For a top 8 finish

I don't think wakefield have a chance of the 8

A lot of it will depend on all teams keeping key players fit but we need to be performing near to the top of our capabilities from week one and I just don't think radford is capable of getting the team to do it.

I really hope I'm wrong but next season could be a disaster for us

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:27 pm  

Think we will be fighting for 7 or 8 place maybe 6 . Which will be a vast improvement on this year. IMO we will have a good year.COYH

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:38 pm  

I want to see commitment, a team wanting to play for each other and trying 100% of the time.

Anything else would be a bonus as I for one are sick of seeing teams wearing the famous black n white irregular hoops not turning up for matches. Clearly we need to be at least in the top eight anything else could prove a disaster for our long term future.

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:26 pm  

Diogenes wrote:

We need to be realistic here.

Top 8 would be a considerable improvement on last season. Its also probably everyone's (including AP's) mininum requirement.

A 6th place finish would mean real progress.

Lets not have any silly talk of top 4 please.

Its funny to think that some of us think 6th would mean real progress when the previous coach was sacked getting us to 6th including an horrendous injury list to contend with,and also getting the club to Wembley.
I am going to leave any criticism or praise of Radford until I have seen the first 6 matches.
I certainly don't think we are a strong side that clubs will fear playing either home or away but it will certainly be an interesting season given the new format.
We need our props to turn up each week and if they do lay us a platform then we could surprise a few of the top teams.Realistic finish though 7th or 8th
My tips watch out for Warrington and Catalan and expect Salford to be much more competitive.

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:11 pm  

Ian P wrote:

I want to see commitment, a team wanting to play for each other and trying 100% of the time.

I don't think there were many games last season when that wasn't the case, possibly the Wigan defeat. The last time I saw a clear indication of the opposite was the Hudds play off game in 2013.

What we need as well as 100% commitment is a higher level of playing talent. Someone on another thread talks about us not contesting at the top since 2007. That is correct - and since 2007 we've had a number of coaches but the one constant theme has been a declining level of playing talent. The biggest disappointment of Pearson's reign has been that this wasn't addressed for the first two years and in fact the policy was continued and at a high price as well.

I'm hoping that we look like a team with better players in it come April/May next year. If we do then we will contest. If we don't then further declining gates will soon follow.

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:57 pm  

Staffs FC wrote:

Ian P wrote:

I want to see commitment, a team wanting to play for each other and trying 100% of the time.

I don't think there were many games last season when that wasn't the case, possibly the Wigan defeat. The last time I saw a clear indication of the opposite was the Hudds play off game in 2013.

Widnes at home when we didn't look like we believed we could overturn a 7 point deficit, Wakey at home when having been cruising we just stopped playing and Bradford away.

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:26 pm  

Diogenes wrote:

Widnes at home when we didn't look like we believed we could overturn a 7 point deficit, Wakey at home when having been cruising we just stopped playing and Bradford away.

Was that the game we threw away half a dozen try scoring chances?

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:06 pm  

Diogenes wrote:

Widnes at home when we didn't look like we believed we could overturn a 7 point deficit, Wakey at home when having been cruising we just stopped playing and Bradford away.

Neither of those defeats were due to lack of effort or commitment. Just a combination of poor execution and poor individual errors from players failing to reach the required standard.

Re: Realising potential in 2015? : Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:18 pm  

a lot has been made of leeds supposed decline, largely based on how they finished last season. however burrow, leuluai, ablett, mcquire, peacock and sinfield are all still there along with plenty of back up. they will still be top 5 though if they start poor their coach could be the first to go.

the real test will come the year after when possibly all of the above players could retire