Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:11 am  

ball-in-hand wrote:

I still think Tim is planning to return to Australia after this year hence the one year deal for him and JW is looking at Miller as a long term replacement. We have been able to get him for peanuts this year due to FCs generous pay off so we can afford an understudy. After his indifferent performance at Hull no club would give him a long term deal unless he proves himself and we couldn't afford to give one. No point in speculating where he will play but I won't be surprised to see him wearing the number 7 shirt in 2016 on a 3 year deal.

If that does happen it's good that the club have thought ahead and already planning next year. Saying that hopefully Tim stays longer but who knows.

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:30 am  

As I said before, we might get a better idea when squad numbers come out, any news when they are out? I guess we won't until squad is finalised

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:44 am  

Raggytash wrote:

Hall is a centre! No chance can Miller play anywhere other than the halves, he has promise in attack, but is woeful in defence.

As I said too small to do all the defensive graft expected of a regular 13 and wouldn't take the ball up. He is 6ft but only 13 stone. Kevin Sinfield is 5 ft 11 and 14 stone 11 lb. Kevin Brown 6ft and 14 stone 2 lb.

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:04 am  

ball-in-hand wrote:

I still think Tim is planning to return to Australia after this year hence the one year deal for him and JW is looking at Miller as a long term replacement. We have been able to get him for peanuts this year due to FCs generous pay off so we can afford an understudy. After his indifferent performance at Hull no club would give him a long term deal unless he proves himself and we couldn't afford to give one. No point in speculating where he will play but I won't be surprised to see him wearing the number 7 shirt in 2016 on a 3 year deal.

You may well be right but like Miller,Riley,Peua,Kirke, and anybody else on a one year contract they would probably re-sign given that we are still in SL come the end of the new season, which could well have been the main reason they only committed for the coming season.

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:16 am  

djcool wrote:

As I said before, we might get a better idea when squad numbers come out, any news when they are out? I guess we won't until squad is finalised

On Wednesday night Webbo said he wasn't a fan of squad numbers and they would not reflect his thinking as to team make-up So watch out for Scruton in the 1 shirt

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:16 am  

Imo this the best squad we have had for a number of years that said I still belive we need another centre

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:54 am  

Choose what ever one things for sure Webster could see the weakness in the side and has added some size and grunt to the pack and it could well be he is looking forward on the Miller signing if Smith does go back to Oz after this year.Im looking forward to the start of the season and one things for sure we wont get over run in the pack my only concern would be Sammut at FB I like him and he would be devastating in attack but one on one with a big forward and they would just run over him but lets see what happens.We have plenty of options as regards Kicker Sammut can do it for fun but should he be injured or not selected then Hall can slot them over as well as McShane.One things for sure Im convinced this squad can cause a fair few upsets and BV will be a happy place to be.If the side get off to a flying start then some of the doubters should start to come back through the gates.

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:59 am  

According to YEP Hull will be funding 'large sum' of Miller's wage because of the 'pay off' deal.
So seems we have made a shrewd signing in that we do not have much to lose and much to gain if he is a success.

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:43 am  

les-goose wrote:

Choose what ever one things for sure Webster could see the weakness in the side and has added some size and grunt to the pack and it could well be he is looking forward on the Miller signing if Smith does go back to Oz after this year.Im looking forward to the start of the season and one things for sure we wont get over run in the pack my only concern would be Sammut at FB I like him and he would be devastating in attack but one on one with a big forward and they would just run over him but lets see what happens.We have plenty of options as regards Kicker Sammut can do it for fun but should he be injured or not selected then Hall can slot them over as well as McShane.One things for sure Im convinced this squad can cause a fair few upsets and BV will be a happy place to be.If the side get off to a flying start then some of the doubters should start to come back through the gates.

I tend to agree with a lot of what you say regarding Sammutt, but do full backs have to make many tackles, I seem to think I saw a stat a few years since suggesting they only made something like 3 tackles per game, I'd be more worried about him under the high balls myself.
Anyone out there that knows such stats, Please feel free to disprove my tackle numbers theory.

Re: Jacob miller : Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:50 pm  

JINJER wrote:

I tend to agree with a lot of what you say regarding Sammutt, but do full backs have to make many tackles, I seem to think I saw a stat a few years since suggesting they only made something like 3 tackles per game, I'd be more worried about him under the high balls myself.
Anyone out there that knows such stats, Please feel free to disprove my tackle numbers theory.

Put it this way, if the pack performs on grass as well as it appears to on paper then no he won't. Webb at Leeds is a classic example, not a great tackler and never needed to be because he was protected. My issue with Sammut at FB was never his defence but his attack which I felt was laboured for such a quick player. Hopefully you can put that down to him learning the position and this year being better placed to exploit any space. Let's be honest that was Mathers great skill, reading the game in attack, his defence was often poor but his support play and finishing were very good.