Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:46 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I'm now considering Saints Fan to be a well hidden Troll, is this some kind of retribution from a long standing and very patient Wigan fan after the Agent Millward incident???

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:48 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Someone who has talent, someone who is English and someone who is considerably younger.

Brilliant. Who is he?

SaintsFan wrote:

I would like to have seen how Dixon would have developed. He did amazing things with his game in the off season. Who knows what he would have developed into within the next season or two? It would have been great to see.

Me too. I highly doubt he'll be a Manu but I'm sorry to see him go. Good squad player.

Is this the player you're suggesting you'd prefer lining up for us than Manu, though?

SaintsFan wrote:

But that is because I am a fan of developing our own talent or English talent at least, rather than buying in ageing imports (or indeed any imports).

You need a balance of young, locally produced talent and genuine established (ie not just potential) quality.

Given the current market restrictions, when a top class player (and you've watched enough to know he's that, even if you're loathe to admit it) becomes available, you have to be interested.

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:49 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

You would not have liked Daniel Anderson. 6 overseas imports in the 2007 GF.

Matthew Gidley
Willie Talau
Francis Meli
Jason Cayless
Chris Flannery
Maurie Fa'asavalu

Yep. And we are on 7 this season.

It's not Daniel Anderson I have a problem with. It is the Chairman who signs the deals, not the coach.

I loved supporting our mostly local team last season and at the GF it gave me - and a lot of fans around me - a real buzz to be supporting local lads. It's put me off imports for life.

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:50 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I'm now considering Saints Fan to be a well hidden Troll,??

im convinced. She's on thin ice

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:51 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Yep. And we are on 7 this season.

It's not Daniel Anderson I have a problem with. It is the Chairman who signs the deals, not the coach.

I loved supporting our mostly local team last season and at the GF it gave me - and a lot of fans around me - a real buzz to be supporting local lads. It's put me off imports for life.

Never live by Dogma....

Practicality at all times.

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:52 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

That's right. I said that we would have to look at Manu as an u20s player in order to assess whether our own stock had possibilities. That is what I said originally; it's what I said previously and it is what I'm saying now. You can't compare Manu now with a young gun, but that is what you were doing.

Meanwhile, we are Hull KR of the west.

No, no, no, no, no.

We weren't talking "possibilities".

We were talking doing a job for us in preference to Manu, which means providing that impact and talent in 2013 and 2014.

Can you name someone who can?

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:57 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

You need a balance of young, locally produced talent and genuine established (ie not just potential) quality.

Hmm ...

Bedtime for me now.

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:01 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Hmm ...

Bedtime for me now.

So you can't name anyone who would be a better option next year and the year after than Manu?

Neither can I. Top signing.

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:07 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

So you can't name anyone who would be a better option next year and the year after than Manu?

You win. You argued me into a circle. That is what you wanted, and you won. Well done you.

I don't want Manu because he is an ageing import. I said that at the start and I'll say that to finish.

Re: Willie Manu : Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:29 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You win. You argued me into a circle. That is what you wanted, and you won. Well done you.

I don't want Manu because he is an ageing import. I said that at the start and I'll say that to finish.

Very good, it's a reason, not a reason I'd have but fair enough a reason. It's just a reason that lacks reason.