Re: Getting left behind? : Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:22 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Even the guy from Leigh had a go at JP!!

Yeah that worked out well for him didn't it?

Re: Getting left behind? : Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:26 am  

Old Feller wrote:

If Bateman's so great why does Wane leave him on the bench for nearly an hour in most big games?

I don't see anyone saying he is a great player - bet he would have developed more at either Warrington or Saints

Re: Getting left behind? : Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:55 am  

Old Feller wrote:

If Bateman's so great why does Wane leave him on the bench for nearly an hour in most big games?

Who said he was "great"? I suggested he might have been a better bet than the likes of Jay Pitts.

Re: Getting left behind? : Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:50 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

Yeah that worked out well for him didn't it?

Pity he didn't do the same to Bateman - but that's another story

Re: Getting left behind? : Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:38 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Pity he didn't do the same to Bateman - but that's another story

I think you watched a different game to the rest of us.

Re: Getting left behind? : Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:01 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Pity he didn't do the same to Bateman - but that's another story

JP thought better of it, and rightly so.

sparking a chav would have done nothing for his reputation.

Re: Getting left behind? : Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:48 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Leeds were a side that even Wigan feared in a one off game because of their toughness especially when their back was against the wall. So there was a level of respect which meant they never took the p1ss with Leeds like they do with other sides - no cannonballs etc until game 1 after that it was open season.

I never said that Leeds weren't better than Wigan in game 1 so please read what I put before playing the "Big Man". Come on clever clogs let's hear your "definitive" reason as to why Wane in game two decided the way to beat Leeds was to ruffle their feathers? By game three Leeds were so cuckolded it was embarrassing. Wigan may well have lost the battle in game one but they sure won the war. Leeds with this squad will never be able to physically dominate the current Wigan side.

These little moments set the tone - its like a big hit it changes the tone of the game - of course you being the "expert" you are in your own mind of all things RL would have been able to see that!! Obviously that is beyond the limits of your myopic view. The bigger point was that Peacock never sorted Bateman out in game 1 he allowed Bateman to take the p1ss. That set a tone that cost Leeds - Peacock was never had the same impact.

"No cannonballs".....sorry must've forgot Jeff Lima on Clarkson or Sam Tomkins on JJB.......Wigan have tried to ruffle our feathers for a few years now, sometimes it has worked, sometimes it hasn't. Wane and Wigan showing "a level of respect and not taking the mickey"......sorry but have you not watched Wigan before this season? Doesn't matter the opposition, in fact the bigger the better to dig into them. The more you try to push this 'Wane only discovered about Leeds in that Bateman incident' the more desperate you sound to push your 'Leeds are doomed' idea.

Re: Getting left behind? : Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:11 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

"No cannonballs".....sorry must've forgot Jeff Lima on Clarkson or Sam Tomkins on JJB.......Wigan have tried to ruffle our feathers for a few years now, sometimes it has worked, sometimes it hasn't. Wane and Wigan showing "a level of respect and not taking the mickey"......sorry but have you not watched Wigan before this season? Doesn't matter the opposition, in fact the bigger the better to dig into them. The more you try to push this 'Wane only discovered about Leeds in that Bateman incident' the more desperate you sound to push your 'Leeds are doomed' idea.

As I said time will tell - you have no more idea of how Leeds will go next year - even though your arrogance and myopia makes you believe you do. It is all opinions yours is no more valid than mine. Some facts Leeds didn't beat a top four side in SL after win against Wigan in May, they lost 9 games in the second half of the season including losses to Saints, Wigan, Warrington, Huddersfield. When they needed to put in a half decent performance against the Dragons they fail. My view is based on the tangible evidence listed above not some "I am going to ignore the evidence because winning the CC caused all this and it will all be different because they have now won the CC". The evidence post CC wouldn't suggest that winning the cup and getting the monkey off their back had a positive impact on their play.

On the Wigan thing - yours is an opinion you don't know what Wane thought - even though you actually believe you do!!! Something changed in their attitude between game 1 and game 2 why that was who knows - neither of us really know.